Use underlayment pad with glue down wood floor??

[Ronman]

I purchased some 9/16" engineered t&g wood floor that can be floated or glued down. I'm not sure which I will be doing, but I went ahead and purchased the best quality pad they had. It's not plasticy or foam, but more like rubber/cork feeling.

My question is, the salesman told me the best installation would be to glue the pad to the slab, then glue the wood to the pad.

I've never heard of this method. Has anyone else? Seems like overkill with little to no noticed benefit.

Thanks for any help!!

Ron

 

[Ken]

Of course the salesman told you that. That way he can sell you twice the glue! lmao! Follow what the manufacturer says, not the salesman. Youre going to want to make sure youre installing to spec as to avoid voiding any warranties. Some companies will void your warranty if you dont use a specific adhesive. Check those directions and if you cant find them, call the manufacturer.

 

[highup]

I purchased some 9/16" engineered t&g wood floor that can be floated or glued down. I'm not sure which I will be doing, but I went ahead and purchased the best quality pad they had. It's not plasticy or foam, but more like rubber/cork feeling.

My question is, the salesman told me the best installation would be to glue the pad to the slab, then glue the wood to the pad.

I've never heard of this method. Has anyone else? Seems like overkill with little to no noticed benefit.

Thanks for any help!!

Ron

What's the name of the pad material?
Welcome to the forum, Ron

 

[FloorMaven]

I've never heard of this method. Has anyone else? Seems like overkill with little to no noticed benefit.

The double glue method is quite popular especially in high density living situations where you are required to have sound deadening material between you and your neighbor. The pad is a benefit to them (your neighbor below) and the glue down is a benefit to you as an affixed floor sounds much less hollow when you walk on it compared to a floating floor.

 

[Ronman]

The double glue method is quite popular especially in high density living situations where you are required to have sound deadening material between you and your neighbor. The pad is a benefit to them (your neighbor below) and the glue down is a benefit to you as an affixed floor sounds much less hollow when you walk on it compared to a floating floor.

So it sounds like using a pad in a double glue method has no benefit to me?

What's the name of the pad material?
Welcome to the forum, Ron

Thanks! "Eco Ultra Quiet Premium Acoustical Underlayment"
Sold here: http://www.flooranddecoroutlets.com/s54200049.html

Of course the salesman told you that. That way he can sell you twice the glue! lmao! Follow what the manufacturer says, not the salesman. Youre going to want to make sure youre installing to spec as to avoid voiding any warranties. Some companies will void your warranty if you dont use a specific adhesive. Check those directions and if you cant find them, call the manufacturer.

Good point about the warranty. I found the installation instructions and there is no mention of the option of double glue. Pretty standard glue down instructions. Here's the wood and install specs:
http://www.urbanfloor.com/Maple-Natural.html
http://www.urbanfloor.com/downloads/urbanfloor_installation2011_web.pdf
I special ordered it from the outlet I got the pad from.

 

[FloorMaven]

So it sounds like using a pad in a double glue method has no benefit to me?

I suppose if your building requires a sound barrier and you don't use one, management can force you to tear out the floor and put one in. It would be to your benefit to have that information.

 

[Ronman]

I suppose if your building requires a sound barrier and you don't use one, management can force you to tear out the floor and put one in. It would be to your benefit to have that information.

True. It doesn't apply to my situation though, I have a single floor house with concrete slab on grade.

 

[Ernesto]

I'd just glue it unless your moisture tests of the slab read high. Course you can use a all in one adhesive/vapor retarder. Most people go with floating since the glue is so costly. Plus an ASTM F 2170-11 can run $3 to 400 ducats.

 

[Ronman]

I agree, and I'll just go with the all-in-one glue and it should be good. I did the plastic square test and nothing happened.
It was tempting to float but I don't want to skimp.

Thanks!!

 

[Ernesto]

I agree, and I'll just go with the all-in-one glue and it should be good. I did the plastic square test and nothing happened.
It was tempting to float but I don't want to skimp.

Thanks!!

You mean the plastic sheet method???

I'm so glad you asked that. I have a step by step video for you on that exact subject. Listen closely. heh heh

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