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[Mark Brown]

Full disclosure, I am not vaccinated, have no plan to be, comply with health orders to the best of my limited ability and frankly just don't worry too much one way or the other. I still think half assing things is stupid.

I got enough to worry about so I figure why make this one more, doesn't mean I run around rubbing it in folks faces or when mandated to do this or that I won't comply. My line in the sand though, is vaccinating. Just not really a fan, never have been and am probably lacking a lot. I'm sure as life goes one, ailments affect me, someone puts a gun to my head.... my opinion might change but for the here and now, that's it. Funny thing though, I dont let my opinion inform me on how to think/feel about other people's opinions. Thems are theirs and to each their own.

 

[C.J.]

I wasn’t all in favor of the *** myself until a couple months ago. Had a few family members and friends who got the Rona and they were sick but not hospital sick and certainly not sick enough to convince me to get the ***. Then my brother and my dad got the Rona. My dad has had the *** and he didn’t really even get a fever and he’s 81. My brother was jabless and he’s just now getting out of the hospital tomorrow after a month of being on a vent and ecmo and he still has a long way to go to get back to some sort of normal. That right there convinced me to get the ***. I don’t want to end up in that situation. Does that mean I’m bulletproof? Nope. But hopefully I won’t even get a fever if I get the Rona. Maybe I won’t even know if I have it and that’s alright with me. This lockdown stuff is for scared people. This is just how things are now and I’ve accepted that. If you’ve had your shot and you believe it works then what do you care whether someone else has had theirs or not. If it doesn’t work then why the push to get everyone ‘vaccinated’. Can’t have it both ways.

For those out there who don’t want to get the *** I support your decision because it’s your body, your choice. But to those people who are all freaked out and think the world needs to be locked down and sanitized because they don’t want to die, pffttt that. Stay at home if you’re that scared. If I’m wrong and I die because of my ‘reckless’ actions then you have one less thing to worry about out of a million other things that could go wrong with your life but you should prolly still stay at home while wearing 3 masks and sanitizing every 15 minutes because you never know what other germs you might catch. What about the class action lawsuits against some of the hand sanitizer manufacturers because they have benzene in them. Now you gotta worry about cancer when you coulda just used soap n water. Bet nobody was worried about that. Prolly cus it wasn’t blasted all over the MSM. I could go on but I doesn’t really matter does it. I’m just a dude tryin to live his life in this effed up world.

 

[Mark Brown]

That about sums up my life philosophy. I just don't care what you do. That really is it in a nutshell. If someone is not actively trying to ruin my life, I say go live yours. Cheers!

 

[Jon]

That about sums up my life philosophy. I just don't care what you do. That really is it in a nutshell. If someone is not actively trying to ruin my life, I say go live yours. Cheers!

Mark is Canada going down the path of no *** no job in high risk areas like airline cabin crew, boarder security etc?
Its starting to happen here
7 cases in the community now all tied into the original case, one is a school teacher which could be more coming up

 

[Mark Brown]

It has been mandated federally for employees, long term care in my province. I haven't paid a lot of attention to interprovincial legislation but I bet it's mostly the same. The federal government is "nudging" larger employers and federally regulated industries, so soon.
Lucky no one cares what floor layers do...

 

[Floorist]

I was against the vaccine in the beginning. Then relatives and friends started dying.

 

[Jon]

It has been mandated federally for employees, long term care in my province. I haven't paid a lot of attention to interprovincial legislation but I bet it's mostly the same. The federal government is "nudging" larger employers and federally regulated industries, so soon.
Lucky no one cares what floor layers do...

Mark you missed one word
YET
I can see some saying you have to have the *** to get into their house, building site

 

[havasu]

Problem is. People are still getting the rona after the ***

 

[Jon]

Problem is. People are still getting the rona after the ***

In this latest case a nurse who has had the two jabs is one of the effected ones

 

[C.J.]

Problem is. People are still getting the rona after the ***

That’s my whole point. It is supposed to lessen your symptoms but doesn’t prevent you from getting the Rona. So what good is getting everyone jabbed gonna do other than you supposedly won’t be as sick if even sick at all. So unless you completely lock down everything, locking down anything is stupid as is mandating anything. States with heavily mandated lockdowns n stuff are still having outbreaks. Might as well just let people work and get on with their lives. Not everyone is gonna die but everyone suffers during a lockdown.

 

[Mark Brown]

Mark you missed one word
YET
I can see some saying you have to have the *** to get into their house, building site

They can say whatever they like. I can tell you I wont be working for them. The closest thing I am ok with people telling me I have to do is wear clothes in public.... only because if I dont have to then other people wont have to and I really do not want that to happen.

 

[Mark Brown]

I should add, if someone asked my vaccination status I would tell them and if they precluded me from their employ that is as much their "right" as my choices are mine so no hard feelings

 

[havasu]

My daughter's live-in boyfriend just got the rona. He tested positive twice, and feels like crap. And yes, he and my daughter were first in line to get the ***. Surprisingly, she just got tested, and two blood tests say she doesn't have it. Her work policy says she must stay home for 2 weeks, until HE gets better. This stuff is nonsense. Everyone should get on with their lives, and let the flu takes its course. That is the only way to gain an immunity to it, in my opinion.

 

[highup]

I’m not that selfish of a prick and I have gotten the *** but clearly COVID is here to stay. Lockdowns may be OK with you but I guess in this case I am that selfish *******. I’m just not willing to put my life on hold because others are scared. If you’re scared then you can stay locked up. I promise you I won’t be going to NZ any time soon. I got the *** so I’m going to continue on with life. If the *** doesn’t work then why the push for a shot that doesn’t work. Let the COVID play out and the chips fall where they may because living in fear is not living at all, it is simply existing. Just my 2 cents worth.

If the world doesn't get hurt immunity then it's like people that wash their hands 40 times per day with alcohol. If they get one germ they're probably going to end up in the hospital because they don't have any antibodies for anything.
What about the third strain and the fourth one? I don't think living in a bubble is helping anybody. S*** happens and as unfortunate as it is we still need an economy. We can't shut down the whole world forever for all the governments are going to be putting money for the next 5 years. That isn't realistic and it's not good for younger people especially realizing the government's going to give you a check every month for sitting on your ass. Be reasonably careful and get on with life. I'm pissed off now that Oregon has gone into another mask mandate. Not happy about that. I have my shop and for those who haven't, screw them.

 

[highup]

It has been mandated federally for employees, long term care in my province. I haven't paid a lot of attention to interprovincial legislation but I bet it's mostly the same. The federal government is "nudging" larger employers and federally regulated industries, so soon.
Lucky no one cares what floor layers do...

No one cares what floor layers do here either. In the entire last year and a half I've been asked to wear a mask twice. Once was a two week long job and I noticed that the owners both wore masks inside the house even when no one was there. A second job was just a quick inspection to see if I can find the cause of a flooring separation. When I was greeted at the door of the owners were wearing masks, so I put mine on.
Makes you wonder how I've been working steadily and I mean more than normal for a year and a half and hardly anyone I work for wears masks or requests that I do.
This is how you keep the economy going.
I must add that with all this hubbub about children being vaccinated is a scare tactic. The numbers of school children that contract and or pass on covid is a miniscule percentage. It's a rare day in hell when a child gets overly sick if they contract it. It's like a non-issue yet the government is pressing for everyone that goes into a classroom to have their coverage shots. Just more government control creating more paranoia. 100 times more damage is done to these children by keeping them out of school and not allowing them to behave like children and engaging with friends. The psychological damage is far worse than covid. The psychological part affects all children.

 

[Mark Brown]

No one cares what floor layers do here either. In the entire last year and a half I've been asked to wear a mask twice. Once was a two week long job and I noticed that the owners both wore masks inside the house even when no one was there. A second job was just a quick inspection to see if I can find the cause of a flooring separation. When I was greeted at the door of the owners were wearing masks, so I put mine on.
Makes you wonder how I've been working steadily and I mean more than normal for a year and a half and hardly anyone I work for wears masks or requests that I do.
This is how you keep the economy going.
I must add that with all this hubbub about children being vaccinated is a scare tactic. The numbers of school children that contract and or pass on covid is a miniscule percentage. It's a rare day in hell when a child gets overly sick if they contract it. It's like a non-issue yet the government is pressing for everyone that goes into a classroom to have their coverage shots. Just more government control creating more paranoia. 100 times more damage is done to these children by keeping them out of school and not allowing them to behave like children and engaging with friends. The psychological damage is far worse than covid. The psychological part affects all children.

I hear that man. I think one person I worked with residentially asked for a mask. A few of the larger sites I worked on had it so you needed to wear them when you were wondering about but that was WorkSafe mandating that, not the Contractors. Most the time is was just business as usual, or as usual as any construction site can be considered. It has been a hell of a busy year that is for sure, and sadly I did my best to get covid as often as I could, I just wanted some time off. Is that really too much to ask?? I honestly thought a global pandemic might buy me some kind of a holiday but I was wrong. Looks to me, short of total nuclear annihilation, I am destined for employment.

 

[Floorist]

Problem is. People are still getting the rona after the ***

The kid that I knew that died had been vaccinated. But he was very obese.

 

[havasu]

The kid that I knew that died had been vaccinated. But he was very obese.

So, again, the bigger question is....

"Did he die from the Rona, or did he die with the Rona?"

A huge difference.

 

[havasu]

As said before (I think, anyway), I have a friend, who sits on my city council. His sister died with the Rona, but when the dust settled, she had been on kidney dialysis for years, and in ever declining health. She got a double dose of some medicine, and two days later, she died. After death, they tested her and was determined to have contracted the Rona. He fought like hell to make sure the doctor did not place the Rona as her primary cause of death, since her life insurance would not have to pay our for a "National Pandemic."

 

[Mark Brown]

So, again, the bigger question is....

"Did he die from the Rona, or did he die with the Rona?"

A huge difference.

There is no difference. Dying as a result of an infection either way. If a heart attack kills you due to morbid obesity, the cause of death would be cardiac arrest however the cause of said cardiac arrest would be a host of factors, least of all not being fighting off an infection.
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Other than the medias sensationalism over some misappropriated cases.

Aids doesn't kill you, but it weakens your body to the point where most anything will... but you don't hear people running around complaining that isn't an issue.