Hardness Scale

[Floorist]

Wood hardness scale.

 

[havasu]

Prices for that wood is probably on a similar scale from the cheapest to the most expensive.

 

[Dan]

Prices for that wood is probably on a similar scale from the cheapest to the most expensive.

Black walnut and North American cherry are probably the most expensive of the US domestic hardwoods.

 

[Floorist]

Black walnut and North American cherry are probably the most expensive of the US domestic hardwoods.

I have used both of those in woodworking. The walnut stinks when cut and is very difficult to use.

 

[Ernesto]

Find one that has native mesquite. It is running 2345 ish on the hardness scale and mesquite is 150% as stable as Brazilian cherry. Price some mesquite out some day.

 

[highup]

Where's my Oregon fir?

 

[DarisMulkin]

Where's my Oregon fir?

Its still in Oregon!! What part of Michigan is oregon in?

Daris

 

[Floorist]

Where's my Oregon fir?

So fir down it's off the scale?

 

[highup]

Its still in Oregon!! What part of Michigan is oregon in?

Daris

Michigans east coast?

So fir down it's off the scale?

...but we have so much of it.

 

[Ernesto]

so fir down it's off the scale?:d

Ha ha ha good one!

 

[highup]

Ha ha ha good one!

..........zooooom, right over my freekin' head. Coffee hadn't kicked in yet.
Good one Rusty.

 

[averycarter74]

Hi

Forest Service list the relative hardness for numerous wood species used in flooring.


(Edit, because the Philippines are not in New York.)

 

[Ernesto]

Should be noted this scale does not apply to engineered hardwood that has a different species of wood under the top lamella such as the commonly used Baltic birch.

 

[ccoffer]

Yeah, but that only means it could be either harder or softer. The process of making engineered has the natural effect of creating a harder overall product unless we're talking about a .5 mm veneer over something super soft. Those types of products, however, are really outliers. For the most part, if you're dealing with 2 mm and greater veneers and a decent core, there isn't going to be much variance at all in the indentation characteristics of an engineered versus a solid. I think the main reason the caveat about Janka not applying to engineered is because engineered can be damn near anything. It's a catchall term for anything that isn't one ply. Solid, on the other hand, is just solid. It speaks more to the inherent complexities involved in trying to wrangle all of "engineered" into a single definition than it does to anything broader.

 

[highup]

Yeah, but that only means it could be either harder or softer. The process of making engineered has the natural effect of creating a harder overall product unless we're talking about a .5 mm veneer over something super soft. Those types of products, however, are really outliers. For the most part, if you're dealing with 2 mm and greater veneers and a decent core, there isn't going to be much variance at all in the indentation characteristics of an engineered versus a solid. I think the main reason the caveat about Janka not applying to engineered is because engineered can be damn near anything. It's a catchall term for anything that isn't one ply. Solid, on the other hand, is just solid. It speaks more to the inherent complexities involved in trying to wrangle all of "engineered" into a single definition than it does to anything broader.

I insisted that our brand new historical/maritime museum change from solid white oak to engineered white oak in a section of flooring. It's 11 ply material with the top layer being 1/4 inch thick............. no indentations in this one.

 

[eric248]

I see someone is also from the fine state of Michigan

 

[Nick]

Where's my Oregon fir?

Maybe still be in the cleaners ..

 

[joshua Turbeville]

so Brazilian walnut is the most durable?

 

[Chuck Coffer]

I have used both of those in woodworking. The walnut stinks when cut and is very difficult to use.

The crummy thing about black walnut is how it bleaches out. Most exotics get more color when exposed to sunlight. Walnut does the opposite. Its weird, you can jump on old, bleached out walnut with an edger and it's nice and dark right underneath.