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Jon, that's a cute little table & chair. I really like the new windows!
Things are going a bit better. I slept through the night & woke up just in time to grab my brother & head to our early polling location. Got there right after they opened. Only a couple people were ahead of us in line. There was a lady asking us to get IDs out to be ready & directing people. Pointed to sample ballots with info about the various amendments. I had saved an image of the amendments & which options I wanted to choose on my phone as a reminder so I could compare bc I had researched to see the effects of each amendment & read the pros & cons. One of the candidates I voted for was the one who linked the info on the amendments (to a bipartisan site). Poll workers were all friendly. They had a bin with pens they handed people to sign in, then another bin to put the used pens. I brought my own pen. Another lady was wiping down the screens after each person. While I was at the voting booth one of the ladies commented on how they had cordoned things off outside & it looked like a crime scene. "Let's hope it doesn't become a crime scene!" Lots of laughter & good spirits. They were prepared to get slammed with people later on. I hope people turn out in great numbers to vote. Even if they don't vote for the candidates I chose, I want people to be involved.
My bronchial tubes feel better today. I grabbed a bacon egg & cheese biscuit at McDonalds on the way home.
Cats tore a larger hole in my bedroom window screen bc they were offended that my window was closed & they wanted in. I let a couple of them in last night- I still have the back door blocked off to keep raccoons out & it seems to be working, but some of the cats got out the front door when we were leaving & some can squeeze through to get out.
I want to do something else productive again, but I want to nap first. I always feel sleepy after eating.
 
Oregon change to vote by mail only years ago. Ballots can be put in the mail or take him to the library or the courthouse and there are official dropboxes so if you don't trust the mail you can put them in a dropbox. Ours is right in front of the police station.
Back when we used to go vote in person, all of the people that were in charge were great people. I think if you're a grouchy stick in the mud they don't let you do that job.
You had to show your ID. To that ought to be mandatory.
I've been going crazy because of a floor situation on a carpet job I'm starting.
I installed carpeting in this log home 20ish years ago when it was built. The floor has radiant water tubes in the floor and that floor is covered up with gypcrete. The owners of this home put on a large addition it's just one single room. A few days ago the contractor tore down the temporary wall between the old and the new. They also removed the wood flooring in the dining room because that will be carpeted along with the new addition. The floor in this room had settled considerably. I'm guessing this had 2x10 or 2x12 floor joists. I'm also suspecting they were wet when installed and shrunk creating a half inch drop in the floor. The settling isn't even throughout the entire room, so I had to map out the thickness of the drop in many places where I would need to pour self-leveling concrete so that I could estimate how many bags were needed. That's quite a challenge.
When I did this home originally I ran into a very stressful situation because of the way the tubing was installed in the floor. In many places the tubing was exactly where I would nail in my tack strip. The tubing was installed incorrectly and way too close to the walls and door casings.
Well the same guy did the same thing in this dining room part of the house. Like the upstairs I could see the tube locations somewhat in the middle of the floor. Closer to the wall it didn't even look like there were tubes there....... I had them turn on the heat, then I mapped out the floor along the edges to see what was there. There were additional tubes where I thought there weren't tubes and on one wall the tube locations are two to three inches away from the wall. That's closer than I am comfortable with but I'm very sure of exactly where they are. I found the tubes just like I did years ago by using my cheap infrared thermometer. It's amazing what can be done with this little tool. I now know where the tubes are but I will be covering them up with self-leveler. I will make a map for a template so that later I can install the tack strip without hitting anything.
Do I get the fun jobs or what? 🥴
Here are two views. One from the new addition looking into the dining room, the other looking from the dining room into the new addition.
The long carpet cut is 44 feet long. The other two pieces are 14 and 32 feet. It's thin carpet with a pattern....... Just yummy, isn't it?
 

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This is the area the self-leveler will be poured. The green part is all 1/2 in deep and meets up against the cinder block foundation wall. The black line is the approximate edge of the fill. Once the self-leveler has hardened I will have to screed on a different type of floor patch to match or blend up to where the self-leveler ends. The foundation walls are level and on the same plane and that helps a lot. I will just keep pouring buckets of self-leveler until it gets to the height of the cinder block in both locations.
I don't use self-leveler often so this always makes me nervous. Partly because of the speed I need to keep working and partly to control the mess.
To clean the mixing bucket between pours I will need to travel across the area where I'll be pouring the leveler. That's the only way in and out of this new edition, there are no doors.
 

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High the easiest way to find the tubing is turn the heat up and damp mop the floor. Where the tubes are will dry first and show you where it is. Mark it with a marker. I
ve only hit one water line in all my year plus a gas line in a bar which turned out to be a cooler line. That shut him down for the weekend and he was poed. If ya don't know its there nothing you can do.
 
My 39 dollar infrared thermometer measure in 1/10 of a degree increments. How does that compare to a mop when you're trying to measure fractions of an inch? What sized batteries? 😁
Not bad idea. When I started measuring, there was only about 3 degrees difference between the center of the tube and the area in between tubes. I'm not sure how well a mop would work with that.
 
I’m at Toyota getting my 4Runner repaired. Got oil change and they did a basic inspection of the car. 2 struts leaking and my running board won’t retract. They are putting in a claim for extended warranty service. Assuming they pay out it’s the best $800 I’ve ever spent
 
Sounds like your still having a rough time Z
Today I got new windows as the others were just about falling out
I helped and I made the coffee
No donuts? 😱
Around here, that damage would be on the south side of the house. Is that upside down and backwards for you?
 
I am ok with needing an ID to vote as long as the ID is free. Some states were treating it like a poll tax. In Missouri a non-driver ID is $25. Some poor people could not come up with an extra $25. or $50 for a couple.
 
At the early voting place they check ID. At my regular voting place they don't bother. The early voting location is easier to find & has better parking & lighting. It's right next to the courthouse so it's also has good security. I'm glad none of them ever try to compare my signature from when I first registered to vote. My signature has changed. Also, the page moved when I was trying to sign in so that didn't help.

Rusty, I agree. It can be hard for some people to get ID-- particularly people who just lost their homes to the flooding/hurricane. IIRC, it costs more than $25 for ID here & it takes a long time. Took one friend 6 months to get his ID. He had a hard time even getting the paperwork through bc they wanted SS card or birth certificate & his mom refused to give them to him (and she lived out-of-state). He couldn't get new SS card without the birth certificate & he couldn't get the birth certificate without ID. It was a catch 22.

I know some think that $25 isn't a lot but living in an area where the median household income is below $25k & sales tax is 10.45% & there are all sorts of fees for everything. There is no public transportation and hardly any sidewalks. So people have to rely on having their own cars or have to get lifts. If they get a flat tire, need an oil change, or need any maintenance it eats their budget.

Highup, that looks like a pita for a job. I'd be mad at whoever did the radiant heating.

Interesting carpet pattern.

Odd question: My MSI Herritage Antique Mahogany vinyl planks came with their own backers, but the promo images & info say it can be put over MSI Abatec 3.9 ft. x 25.7 ft. x 1mm Premium Underlayment for Rigid Click Luxury Vinyl Flooring (100 sq. ft.)-VTURIGID - The Home Depot which will keep it from sliding & provide more sound proofing. I don't really care about sound so much, but it might keep the floor a little warmer in winter. I would only need one roll of the stuff. Do you think it would be worth it?

I'm sitting here relaxing in the air conditioning with my cats. They want attention. LOL. Legs are aching. I really should start doing some stretches for my back & legs. I'm planning to make shepherd's pie tonight. Store was out of a lot of stuff & I will probably have to go to a different store to get more food. I think we may be able to get rid of our old fridge now that my brother has his own small fridge in his room. It can hold his milk & diabetes medicine. He's been better about not stealing my milk. The reason we got a 2nd fridge set up was bc he kept eating everyone else's food so we put stuff in a different fridge & told him he wasn't allowed to eat anything from that one. It didn't work with the food but it worked with the milk for the most part.

Mmm.. Donuts.. I think we still have some in the living room (safe from raccoons there).
 
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Sounds like your still having a rough time Z
Today I got new windows as the others were just about falling out
I helped and I made the coffee

Next could be problem getting timber decking replaced
The floor joists run at right angles to the deck starting in the lounge
How rotten are they?
Your are correct highup it is facing north so the decking doesnt dry out
 

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Next could be problem getting timber decking replaced
The floor joists run at right angles to the deck starting in the lounge
How rotten are they?
Your are correct highup it is facing north so the decking doesnt dry out
OK, I guessed that correctly.
So .....does the sun come up in the east or west for you? 😁
I'm assuming the sky is straight up.
A lot of time those timbers survive fairly well because the water doesn't sit on them the same way it does on a flat board.
It would be nice when they install those joists, that they would lay a strip of tar paper over them before laying the deck boards. That way water wouldn't lay between the deck boards and the joists. Then again I'm just a carpet dude what do I know.
If they are in good shape you might request that they do cap or cover the top of those joists with a simple strip of tar paper or something like that, maybe a rubber membrane.
 
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Yes Zan, it's going to be a complicated one. Stretching is probably going to be the most difficult part after getting the floor flat. The long seam will be 31 feet long. The pattern is 1 and 3/4 in long.
I'm hoping the pattern is consistent so I don't have to fight the pattern match a lot when doing the seam.
 
OK, I guessed that correctly.
So .....does the sun come up in the east or west for you? 😁

Nah it comes up every morning :)
The rules here are pretty tough what builders are allowed to do
I asked him if he could hold the flood light over the door and said he would have to get an electrician even if he is just holding it for me while I connect the wires. Soon as he touches it he owns it for the next 20 years if the house burns down as I would say to insurance company he helped but if you as my next door neighbor who knows nothing its all covered
We can use this type of thing working on jobs Not my job Cant touch it
 
Zan, are most materials there is a manufacturer's tech line so you can ask questions about products or installations.
I'd call that tech line and tell them your material and pattern number then ask if that underlayment is okay.
I don't know of any material that would allow a cushion if the material you're installing already has one. That said I don't know what that rolled underlayment material looks like, so maybe it is okay but I'd certainly call and tell them your situation and ask if that's ok or not.
 
Jon, floor layers here aren't supposed to remove and replace toilets because that's plumbing. But I'm sure I set a couple hundred in my lifetime.
Since it's not rocket science to install a wax seal and tighten one fitting it's not that big of a deal. When I first started working with my grandfather he reset toilets so I learned to reset toilets. When you finish up installing vinyl in a bathroom at 5:30 p.m. or 6:00, it's not easy getting a plumber over to the house so we do what we got to do when a customer only has one toilet.
Electrical is different. That said I've probably removed and replaced a dozen baseboard heaters in the last 40 years. That's not rocket science either. I've pretty much stopped doing anything electrical and only do plumbing when it's absolutely necessary. It's hard to arrange for a plumber to remove a toilet in the morning, then do floor prep and install the vinyl, and request that the plumber returns to the house at 4:00 to reinstall the toilet. What happens when you discover some damage to the floor and need to replace pieces of underlayment and now you won't get the job done until 6:00. If the homeowner only has one toilet I'm putting it back. I just find it difficult to tell a plumber the day before I am doing an installation exactly when I will finish.
 
What I learned in ‘14 when I bought 4Runner is that you can negotiate the price of the warranty after the salesman gets done. You negotiate the warranty with the financial person separate.
 

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