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There's one down in Eugene Oregon that advertise selling Mantiques.

 

[C.J.]

Talkin with the ex couple weeks ago and apparently there is an antique store with a bar attached to it in Beaverton. I thought that was brilliant. What a great way to get people to buy useless shit but with a couple drinks first.

 

[highup]

Talkin with the ex couple weeks ago and apparently there is an antique store with a bar attached to it in Beaverton. I thought that was brilliant. What a great way to get people to buy useless shit but with a couple drinks first.

They should add a laundromat.

 

[C.J.]

Suds n brew is already a thing

 

[MikeAntonetti]

I saw a leaf filter estimate at a home for 7 grand.

 

[C.J.]

I saw a leaf filter estimate at a home for 7 grand.

I got gutter covers for maybe $70 at Lowe’s. That leaf filter crap is a scam as far as I’m concerned. They have a running ad on CL looking for installers just like the box stores do.

 

[Floorist]

Did you ever deal with Angie's List when it was a thing? Got a discreet e-mail from them one time, for $100 they would add a bunch of excellent reviews. I told them no, and some bad reviews popped up from people I had never worked for. I see now,it is just Angi's.

 

[C.J.]

I’ve never paid for leads or reviews. Never dealt with that online crap either. The customers have you over a barrel. Kiss their ass or risk a bad review. You’re already being price shopped online so it’s kinda hard to charge appropriately for kiss ass level of service.

Angi’s list combined with home advisor to become angi’s. Home advisor used to be service magic. Total scam, all of em, if you ask me. It’s like a couple of con artists got together and became a super con artist. They make as much money as they can and when they’ve burned their reputation they change names. They sent the same lead to multiple contractors and charged all of them regardless of whether you got the job or not. I’ve heard some people made money by using them. Shoot, I’ve made money working for HD and Lowe’s. But most people have gotten hosed. It’s no different than gambling and the house wins the majority of the time.

Funny thing about online reviews, the wife n I were drinkin at a bar one night and met a guy that worked for a company that manages the online reviews for multiple companies. Those reviews are all managed by a third party company. That’s why you will see the same reviews multiple places online. I’m sure you can pay to have the shitty ones buried.

 

[Floorist]

Almost all of my work was from word-of-mouth referrals.

 

[highup]

Suds n brew is already a thing

But suds, antiques and Brew ain't. Might as well make it a guaranteed money maker and include a shooting range.

 

[C.J.]

But suds, antiques and Brew ain't. Might as well make it a guaranteed money maker and include a shooting range.

Now you’re on to something. Some of that junk ain’t worth nothin but to be shot.

 

[highup]

Almost all of my work was from word-of-mouth referrals.

I think this were a lot of us have a real advantage. In large cities, you make money by volume. If you can make volume and still undercut everybody else, you're going to get a lot of work as you beat yourself to a pulp.
A smaller communities, word of mouth rules.
I can imagine some homeowners going for low bid on every single project they have....... Supposedly saving money on every project. Most every time they're disappointed yet they keep going for low bid.
Most of the customers that I have, have found a carpenter that they like and they stuck with him. He treats them right, he does good work and they like his personality.
Anybody that does quality work and has a great personality is going to retain customers and if you're lucky they almost become a bit like family.
If I was brought up in a large metropolitan area I would literally have sunk like a stone in my first year. Not that I'm floating very high in the water right now, but I feel pretty lucky having customers respect me and the work that I do for them.

 

[highup]

I got gutter covers for maybe $70 at Lowe’s. That leaf filter crap is a scam as far as I’m concerned. They have a running ad on CL looking for installers just like the box stores do.

Is that the one that cost you virtually nothing you just pay for installation?
If it is, it looks like it will work fantastic in a 2-in per hour rainstorm, with leaves flying right off the roof and water never even getting inside the gutter because it's flowing so fast.

 

[C.J.]

They’re the 4’ plastic pieces that I installed myself. One run of the house they wouldn’t fit on so I bought the 4’ triangle wedges of foam lookin stuff and put them in myself. I’ve heard the leaf filter deals clog up with the roof shingle grit because the mesh holes are so fine. I’m a cheap bastard and whatever Lowe’s had keeps the leaves out just fine.

 

[Floorist]

I think this were a lot of us have a real advantage. In large cities, you make money by volume. If you can make volume and still undercut everybody else, you're going to get a lot of work as you beat yourself to a pulp.
A smaller communities, word of mouth rules.
I can imagine some homeowners going for low bid on every single project they have....... Supposedly saving money on every project. Most every time they're disappointed yet they keep going for low bid.
Most of the customers that I have, have found a carpenter that they like and they stuck with him. He treats them right, he does good work and they like his personality.
Anybody that does quality work and has a great personality is going to retain customers and if you're lucky they almost become a bit like family.
If I was brought up in a large metropolitan area I would literally have sunk like a stone in my first year. Not that I'm floating very high in the water right now, but I feel pretty lucky having customers respect me and the work that I do for them.

I charged more than anyone else. Never seemed to hurt me.

 

[highup]

I got so used to charging my customers for what the shop was charging that I felt guilty charging more.
Shop was paying 75 bucks for a minimum and I was charging 125. I've been doing that for quite a few years. I talked to another installer and he said he was charging 150 for a minimum.
I don't know maybe I should change my minimum to 350. When I give customers a bill they always ask, "is that all?"
I have scars on my head from beating my head's so often when I hear that.

 

[highup]

Okay, enough of the fun...
.......back to politics.
Can you imagine Joe Biden with this much energy and so much ability to speak coherently???!
.....me neither

Have you ever seen Joe Biden with this much intensity, this much energy and passion for our country?
Joe Biden is like a mud puppy gasping for water in a dried up puddle and he is supposedly the leader of the free world. It makes me sick to my stomach people can hate Trump so bad they want our country to go into the toilet instead. There is bad and there is worse.

I can't think of a time when I was more worried about our nation than I am right now.
Hate Donald Trump all you want, but look at what we have now. Worst border crisis ever recorded, energy prices such as gasoline on a steep rise like a dollar a gallon in the past 6 or 7 months.....

We were energy independent during a trump administration but after canceling the keystone pipeline and eliminating the ability for companies to use government land for oil drilling.......... Are we better off now??? What message are we sending to the world?
Is it that we want to sell you our oil or is it we want to buy your oil?
Explain to me in simple words why that is a benefit to our country.
Please, someone tell me how is that a benefit to our country to be less energy independent?

I'm sorry but that is as freaking stupid as you can get. Energy Independence is like the most important thing a country can have..
The Democrats don't want us to have energy Independence. Republicans do want you to have energy Independence. Wake up Americans.
Sepatate your hatred towards Trump and think about what is right and what is wrong... Just because Donald Trump is a jerk doesn't mean you have to stand against everything he ever said or did.
The Democrats want to buy your vote by giving you handouts, giving you free college tuition or pay off your student loan, then giving you free housing, and giving you covid relief checks that appear to go on for eternity or .....
I'm not going to even mention when you buy a new car the kickback you get from the government, nor the kickback that the car company gets for making an electric car. The government gave you a kick back and the government gave Tesla a kickback and who paid for that???? What is the true cost of that electric car that you bought?????
We have plenty of Americans to fill the voids left after covid. Employers are begging for workers and nobody will show up for work.
Employers have raised the prices they will pay and are begging for people to come back to work.
Nope, that's not good enough for the Democrats. They just want to keep on printing fake money and giving it to unemployed people that don't want to go back to work because they can't make $40 an hour sweeping floors.
Stop destroying our nation and vote Republican.
Better yet, vote for Donald Trump in 2024!!!!!!!!! That arrogant ass loves this country.
...fess up and admit it Democrats in power are just trying to buy your vote. I mean that is so obvious. Do you think if the Democrats legalized the immigration status of 8 million alien aliens that they will not gain, at the most extreme minimum, 8 million more votes?
Really? Really??

 

[highup]

Okay, enough of the fun...
.......back to politics.
Can you imagine Joe Biden with this much energy and so much ability to speak coherently???!
.....me neither

Have you ever seen Joe Biden with this much intensity, this much energy and passion for our country?
Joe Biden is like a mud puppy gasping for water in a dried up puddle and he is supposedly the leader of the free world. It makes me sick to my stomach people can hate Trump so bad they want our country to go into the toilet instead. There is bad and there is worse.

I can't think of a time when I was more worried about our nation than I am right now.
Hate Donald Trump all you want, but look at what we have now. Worst border crisis ever recorded, energy prices such as gasoline on a steep rise like a dollar a gallon in the past 6 or 7 months.....

We were energy independent during a trump administration but after canceling the keystone pipeline and eliminating the ability for companies to use government land for oil drilling.......... Are we better off now??? What message are we sending to the world?
Is it that we want to sell you our oil or is it we want to buy your oil?
Explain to me in simple words why that is a benefit to our country.
Please, someone tell me how is that a benefit to our country to be less energy independent?

I'm sorry but that is as freaking stupid as you can get. Energy Independence is like the most important thing a country can have..
The Democrats don't want us to have energy Independence. Republicans do want you to have energy Independence. Wake up Americans.
Sepatate your hatred towards Trump and think about what is right and what is wrong... Just because Donald Trump is a jerk doesn't mean you have to stand against everything he ever said or did.
The Democrats want to buy your vote by giving you handouts, giving you free college tuition or pay off your student loan, then giving you free housing, and giving you covid relief checks that appear to go on for eternity or .....
I'm not going to even mention when you buy a new car the kickback you get from the government, nor the kickback that the car company gets for making an electric car. The government gave you a kick back and the government gave Tesla a kickback and who paid for that???? What is the true cost of that electric car that you bought?????
We have plenty of Americans to fill the voids left after covid. Employers are begging for workers and nobody will show up for work.
Employers have raised the prices they will pay and are begging for people to come back to work.
Nope, that's not good enough for the Democrats. They just want to keep on printing fake money and giving it to unemployed people that don't want to go back to work because they can't make $40 an hour sweeping floors.
Stop destroying our nation and vote Republican.
Better yet, vote for Donald Trump in 2024!!!!!!!!! That arrogant ass loves this country.
...fess up and admit it Democrats in power are just trying to buy your vote. I mean that is so obvious. Do you think if the Democrats legalized the immigration status of 8 million people, that well over 8 million thankful people will vote for Democrats?
Really? Really?? Wake up, the Democrats are buying votes. It's everywhere.

 

[highup]

Sorry for my long run but....
.... I what other countries to be fearful of the leader of the Free world, not to think he's an easy pushover. Like it or not power is power. Those with the most have an advantage that can be used for the good of mankind.
Those with the most power can also be used to destroy mankind.
Trump, 2024!
......
I'd be very happy to vote for someone who is not Donald Trump. That person must obviously have the same vision as Trump.

 

[Floorist]