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Our system will not let you die by not letting you into to a hospital like a heart attack. One gets fixed straight away. Minor things one sits there for hours unless one goes to a private medical centre which one has to pay with the government topping the bill up. If you say cut yourself ACC comes in and pays 80%, I think?, of the bill A lot of people pay a health insurance so one can get into a private hospital quicker. Different than a Medical Centre which is for cuts, bruises colds etc etc. Our Health Insurance does pay out on Medical centres as well
Even tourists get fixed up for free then the government tries to get the money out of them when they leave if they do not have any insurance money. Its funny NZers would never travel overseas without insurance cause they don't want to pay a large bill up front before the hospitals will do any thing if they have to get medical treatment. From what I hear No money, no hospital in a lot of countries overseas but we will not ask for money from tourists in NZ before we fix you, just try to get paid later. With Accidents ACC will pay out with a no blame/fault system which means one can not sue if you are in an accident but now with Health and Safety someone will be looking for the cause to fine you
Re Christchurch ACC is paying NZ$10.000 (I think I heard the amount correctly) towards the funeral costs of each person who was killed
They are suggesting to make dentistry free in hospitals in the idea it could cost less due to the poor health through bad teeth later
Make kinda sense?
Our system will not let you die by not letting you into to a hospital like a heart attack. One gets fixed straight away. Minor things one sits there for hours unless one goes to a private medical centre which one has to pay with the government topping the bill up. If you say cut yourself ACC comes in and pays 80%, I think?, of the bill A lot of people pay a health insurance so one can get into a private hospital quicker. Different than a Medical Centre which is for cuts, bruises colds etc etc. Our Health Insurance does pay out on Medical centres as well
Even tourists get fixed up for free then the government tries to get the money out of them when they leave if they do not have any insurance money. Its funny NZers would never travel overseas without insurance cause they don't want to pay a large bill up front before the hospitals will do any thing if they have to get medical treatment. From what I hear No money, no hospital in a lot of countries overseas but we will not ask for money from tourists in NZ before we fix you, just try to get paid later. With Accidents ACC will pay out with a no blame/fault system which means one can not sue if you are in an accident but now with Health and Safety someone will be looking for the cause to fine you
Re Christchurch ACC is paying NZ$10.000 (I think I heard the amount correctly) towards the funeral costs of each person who was killed
They are suggesting to make dentistry free in hospitals in the idea it could cost less due to the poor health through bad teeth later
Make kinda sense?
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What is NZ's tax rate for $20,000, $50,000 and 500,000? (NZ equivalent)
Medical care isn't free. I see NZ doctors (specialists make $145, 000. In the US it's time and a half that............ OK, maybe $245,000, but still 40% more. How would a 40% increase in physician salaries fit into the budget in NZ?
Our Democrats want free health care with the rich and "greedy" corporations footing the bill. They try to scare the poor and low income by demonizing the rich and those greedy corporations,,,,,,,,,,,,, they do it to get votes by appearing "compassionate " You know.......... they have too much, so you deserve some of their money.................. money that you were not smart enough to earn.
Scandinavia and those "civilized" societies have a 50 or 60 percent tax rate starting near the bottom, meaning the lower income people pay too. Our democrats vilify rich people and corporations, saying they should foot the bill. In reality everyone pays in those other countries. It's not cheap to live there. I wonder how US citizens would adjust to another countries tax and social systems.
That said, I'd love to have cheap health care.......... or free health care. I'm making the same or less than I was 20 years ago.
I currently have none and and since leaving the parental nest, I've never have had any. To date over the past 40 years, I've paid $500ish out of pocket for medical care. .......all from one episode from an infection from a cut or a poke. Not even sure how it happened. We all get small cuts or pokes all the time. The infection started a few days after anything that could have caused it.
I spend every second being careful, always have. I don't walk in front of cars and I don't slide skateboards down stair railings. So far, so good.
Medical care isn't free. I see NZ doctors (specialists make $145, 000. In the US it's time and a half that............ OK, maybe $245,000, but still 40% more. How would a 40% increase in physician salaries fit into the budget in NZ?
Our Democrats want free health care with the rich and "greedy" corporations footing the bill. They try to scare the poor and low income by demonizing the rich and those greedy corporations,,,,,,,,,,,,, they do it to get votes by appearing "compassionate " You know.......... they have too much, so you deserve some of their money.................. money that you were not smart enough to earn.
Scandinavia and those "civilized" societies have a 50 or 60 percent tax rate starting near the bottom, meaning the lower income people pay too. Our democrats vilify rich people and corporations, saying they should foot the bill. In reality everyone pays in those other countries. It's not cheap to live there. I wonder how US citizens would adjust to another countries tax and social systems.
That said, I'd love to have cheap health care.......... or free health care. I'm making the same or less than I was 20 years ago.
I currently have none and and since leaving the parental nest, I've never have had any. To date over the past 40 years, I've paid $500ish out of pocket for medical care. .......all from one episode from an infection from a cut or a poke. Not even sure how it happened. We all get small cuts or pokes all the time. The infection started a few days after anything that could have caused it.
I spend every second being careful, always have. I don't walk in front of cars and I don't slide skateboards down stair railings. So far, so good.
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Tax rate on $50 grand about 33%
We also pay a Goods and Services Tax on everything we buy expect bank Fees and Rent of 15%
Medical is free if you want to wait but for something like a heart attack one would be taken straight to the hospital for treatment straight away and free even you visiting here and breaking your leg skiing, falling down a mountain etc. Fix you up then try and get the money from you later. I think you would be out of luck coming here to have a baby though. You would have to pay and your baby would not be a NZer The baby would still be American (I think the govt made that law awhile ago as too many were ripping off the system)
I would think the same doctor would have two sets of fees. One for the private practice he is in when charging the customer on his premises and then the Govt paying when he is working from the hospital topping up/matching his salary. Don't know how the system works though As in that link Ernesto posted a lot of doctors do both along with splitting their time with Medical centres
There are big hassles here with electric scooters
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...000-for-electric-scooterrelated-injury-claims
I would doubt if the Govt got that amount of the tax out of the earnings for the hireage
We pay about NZ$6 a year for Health Care on top of our taxes
We also pay a Goods and Services Tax on everything we buy expect bank Fees and Rent of 15%
Medical is free if you want to wait but for something like a heart attack one would be taken straight to the hospital for treatment straight away and free even you visiting here and breaking your leg skiing, falling down a mountain etc. Fix you up then try and get the money from you later. I think you would be out of luck coming here to have a baby though. You would have to pay and your baby would not be a NZer The baby would still be American (I think the govt made that law awhile ago as too many were ripping off the system)
I would think the same doctor would have two sets of fees. One for the private practice he is in when charging the customer on his premises and then the Govt paying when he is working from the hospital topping up/matching his salary. Don't know how the system works though As in that link Ernesto posted a lot of doctors do both along with splitting their time with Medical centres
There are big hassles here with electric scooters
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...000-for-electric-scooterrelated-injury-claims
I would doubt if the Govt got that amount of the tax out of the earnings for the hireage
We pay about NZ$6 a year for Health Care on top of our taxes
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Had McCain not turned over the totally made up dossier to the FBI, you know, ..............the dossier that was funded by the DNC, .........do you think Trump would be as pissed off at McCain if he hadn't done that? That was a low blow by McCain. McCain blew the deciding vote on Obamacare, thus ending his campaign promise to the American public. McCain lost my support at that point.
That said, I wish Trump would shut his pie hole. Being a POW doesn't mean forgiveness for any and everything you did in life. I think McCain enjoyed using that history as prop.
No, I do have compassion for his service and hate that he had to endure what he did......... much of it voluntarily. I get that part and he was a hero in my mind in that sense.
OK, you meant not including rent
Most people in the middle class spend most of what they make......... so 33% +15% is a figure no American would ever accept.
Is that including property taxes and any state and local taxes and vehicle registration and petroleum taxes?
Is that including property taxes and any state and local taxes and vehicle registration and petroleum taxes?
No GST on rent of houses BUT one can not charge any of GST on any repairs to the house as GST is not collected on the rent. I charge for the work I do of 15% to the total of the job BUT then I claim back the 15% GST off anything I buy to do that job like materials, glue, petrol etc every six months. I subtract the GST I have payed out from the GST cost I have collected and pay the difference. I like to pay a big GST bill as that means I am making money, no GST pay out means I am going broke
If you own land you pay councils rates, vehicle registration with lots of tax on cigs and petrol
When GST was first bought out a lot of prices dropped as other taxes were taken off things
The GST tax is a user tax, You want a new TV you pay your 15% GST The more the rich spend the more GST they pay
You are not paying your as you say 33%+15% on your earnings Just the 33% of you earnings. You guys pay a sales tax on everything you buy dont you of a smaller %. It used to annoy me when I was in America as the price on the sales ticket says $10 so I would find the $10 and the sales person would then want more for that tax. At least our prices show the total price
Oregon, the state where I live or the US government doesn't not have a sales tax. Well on some things, like cigarettes and alcohol. Some cities have a gas tax. All counties have a property tax based on the value of the home or business. Cars and trucks have a license fee and a renewal fee. In Oregon it's about $130 for two years. Was $89, but the state said they need more money............. I do too, but they don't care.
Do you have a local or state tax plus a national tax? Or is there just a national tax?
Nah we have just those national taxes. Auckland has just put 15 cents a litre on petrol for roading. Other cities are looking at it as well. We have to register our vehicles about $100 a year
Employers should give employees a wage increase equal to the businesses share of the taxes so that the employee can pay all of it. Only then would people know what they are really paying in taxes.
Here are Oregon's tax rates. We don't have a sales tax.
$3,400 - $8,500 7.00%
$8,500 - $125,000 9.00%
$125,000+ 9.90%
Here are Oregon's tax rates. We don't have a sales tax.
$3,400 - $8,500 7.00%
$8,500 - $125,000 9.00%
$125,000+ 9.90%
Some people dont understand a one payer system.
If everyone chips in costs go down. Plus you get rid of the profiteers like CEOs collecting billions in salaries, middle men etc.
Then its easier to clamp down on drug costs - pharmacies really bump up drug prices, more than some pharmaceutical corps.
We're getting ripped.
Historically corps paid double the tax they do now and were successful. Has trickle down ever worked? NO! Wages have been stagnet for twenty years.
If everyone chips in costs go down. Plus you get rid of the profiteers like CEOs collecting billions in salaries, middle men etc.
Then its easier to clamp down on drug costs - pharmacies really bump up drug prices, more than some pharmaceutical corps.
We're getting ripped.
Historically corps paid double the tax they do now and were successful. Has trickle down ever worked? NO! Wages have been stagnet for twenty years.
Why are cops above some laws? A cop was found not guilty yesterday. He shot an unarmed 17 year old in the back three times as the boy was running away. I live in a "stand your ground" state, but we cannot shoot someone who is running away. Why are the police special?
Nah we have just those national taxes. Auckland has just put 15 cents a litre on petrol for roading. Other cities are looking at it as well. We have to register our vehicles about $100 a year
I missed a few 0000"s off what we pay for private health care
It should have read $6 Grand for the two of us. The older you get Up goes the price
I missed a few 0000"s off what we pay for private health care
It should have read $6 Grand for the two of us. The older you get Up goes the price
