Gun free zone

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In AZ we don't need a permit to CC. So when I go to WM I always CC. But that is rare, Walmart has a crap selection of firearms and ammo.

Their ammo is too high. We don't need a permit either.

 

[Ernesto]

I just finished taking my youngest son to Madison Wisconsin for med school. Drove 3500 miles through corn and more corn fields.
Had to check every states gun laws on the way up and back.
We really need states to buckle up and the feds too and get some sort of universal gun laws. Its ridiculous.

 

[Floorist]

We need constitutional carry. Repubs want it. Dims don't.

 

[Ernesto]

AZ STOP Order.
So now our AZ republican Gov. Doug Ducey is calling Red Flag order a Stop Order - Severe Threat Order of Protection. It got shot down twice already but he just keeps on with it.
Shame on him. Never really thought much of the guy, an ice cream shop owner who screwed his partners as rumor has it.


https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2018...n-legislation/

 

[Floorist]

Finally commonsense gun laws


Texas relaxed gun laws after recent mass shootings

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — After dozens of people, including toddlers and teenagers, were gunned down in separate mass shootings at a church Sutherland Springs and a high school in suburban Houston, Texas Republicans came to the Capitol this year with their eyes on new gun laws.

The goal was not to limit access to weapons or ban assault-style rifles, but to expand gun rights. After a pro-gun legislative session applauded by the National Rifle Association, Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed new laws that eased restrictions on where firearms can be carried, from schools to churches, apartments and foster homes, and barred cities from passing their own gun and ammunition sales limits.

https://www.apnews.com/a69166e1f1074a0196deb70ef6e7f8b4

 

[Ernesto]

Finally commonsense gun laws


Texas relaxed gun laws after recent mass shootings

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — After dozens of people, including toddlers and teenagers, were gunned down in separate mass shootings at a church Sutherland Springs and a high school in suburban Houston, Texas Republicans came to the Capitol this year with their eyes on new gun laws.

The goal was not to limit access to weapons or ban assault-style rifles, but to expand gun rights. After a pro-gun legislative session applauded by the National Rifle Association, Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed new laws that eased restrictions on where firearms can be carried, from schools to churches, apartments and foster homes, and barred cities from passing their own gun and ammunition sales limits.

https://www.apnews.com/a69166e1f1074a0196deb70ef6e7f8b4

Well texas requires a license to open carry and conceal carry as well.

 

[Floorist]

" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment and protection of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.

 

[Ernesto]

" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment and protection of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.

Are you enrolled at Harvard law school now Rusty or did you get a subscription to WestLaw?

 

[Floorist]

According to FBI: UCR Table 12, there were approximately 374 people shot and killed with rifles of any kind. There were 1,604 people killed with “knives or cutting instruments.” While approximately 374 people were shot and killed with rifles, roughly 656 people were beaten to death with “hands, fists, feet, etc

 

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As gun ownership has increased by 50%, the gun homicide rate has DECREASED by 50% and the nonfatal violent gun crimes rate has DECREASED by 76%.

Guns Owned Per Person vs. Gun Homicide Rate

Gun violence trend since the 1990s

 

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Ted Cruz was on ABC's This Week yesterday talking about gun control.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-..._null_dp_image

Quote:
"Now, the question is what do we need to do that actually works? And this is where I get frustrated with Democratic politicians in Washington," he added. "Because the proposals they're putting forward would not have stopped a single one of these mass murders."
Quote:
Cruz instead argued for the proposal he first introduced in 2013 with Sen. Chuck Grassley, which the two re-introduced in May. While it doesn't enact universal background checks, the legislation aims to strengthen the current system by prosecuting those with a criminal history who lie on background check forms and criminalizing straw purchases.

 

[Ernesto]

Ted Cruz was on ABC's This Week yesterday talking about gun control.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-..._null_dp_image

Quote:
"Now, the question is what do we need to do that actually works? And this is where I get frustrated with Democratic politicians in Washington," he added. "Because the proposals they're putting forward would not have stopped a single one of these mass murders."
Quote:
Cruz instead argued for the proposal he first introduced in 2013 with Sen. Chuck Grassley, which the two re-introduced in May. While it doesn't enact universal background checks, the legislation aims to strengthen the current system by prosecuting those with a criminal history who lie on background check forms and criminalizing straw purchases.

Both of those are already federal crimes. Ted's an idiot.

 

[Floorist]

Both of those are already federal crimes. Ted's an idiot.

But they are not enforced. 80,000 people have lied on the background check. Less than 1% have been prosecuted.

 

[Dan]

But they are not enforced. 80,000 people have lied on the background check. Less than 1% have been prosecuted.

Yep, needs some teeth.

 

[Floorist]

The AR-15 was designed as a civilian rifle. It was a civilian weapon before it was ever modified for military use. There is nothing especially lethal about the 5.56NATO/.223 cartridge it (typically) fires.

 

[Floorist]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/what-gun-confiscation-would-look-like
Gun confiscation by Bozo O'Rourke.

 

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