Gun free zone

[highup]

Nah not this time
This killing is going to make New Zealand a different place

Jon , if anything happens anywhere in the world, Trump haters will tag his name to it.................. it doesn't matter the subject being discussed. The nasty viewpoint spewed like shotgun pellets from Trump haters...................... well that alone tells you more about the Trump haters than you need to know.
I mean,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the insinuation is that Trump thinks the horrific events in NZ are a good thing........... something that he is happy about.
Two members here have actually said that today. My jaw is on the floor that Trump hate has come to this low point.
I'm sure he hates Jews and Hindus Indians, and everyone that isn't as white as he is and want's them all to die violent deaths also.
..........sorry dudes but bringing Trump into this NZ disaster is 10x lower than I ever imagined you could go. This is about a lone gunman full of hate. Trump did not encourage it, endorse it, orchestrate it, know they guy, know his friends, know his hate group affiliations.
I normally accept the BS, ......but I'm really PO'd guys. Please don't stoop to this low political level cheap shot crap ever again! This is beyond anything I ever thought you would say.

 

[Floorist]

I see the PM is wanting to fix the problem by taking guns away from the law abiding which never helps. They said on the news, if it had not been for a good citizen who was armed, there would have been more deaths.

 

[highup]

I missed that part.
I thought gun ownership in NZ was rare and guns were difficult to obtain.
Pardon my rant guys. My brother sees Trump in the same light as some of you do. He can somehow weave a negative Trump comment into a TV show on baking, woodworking or flying a kite. Trump is on his mind 24-7 even tho nothing Trump's done has affected him in any way shape or form. I can't live my life that way.
If Trump does something that negatively affects me, or someone I know it might change my view of him.

 

[Jon]

I see the PM is wanting to fix the problem by taking guns away from the law abiding which never helps. They said on the news, if it had not been for a good citizen who was armed, there would have been more deaths.

You got that wrong Floorist
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-...ack-father-s-heroism-confronting-shooter.html
Quote
As shots began ringing out at the Linwood mosque in Christchurch, there was an extraordinary act of heroism.

Abdul Aziz and his four children were inside the mosque or masjid at the time when he made the snap decision to run outside to confront the suspected shooter as people escaped.

• Latest news out of Christchurch
• 'Save them': Christchurch man's heroic actions rescuing people from Hagley Park mosque

He then picked up one of the shooter's own guns and chased him away.

"He got another gun on his hand and turned it on me and started shooting it at me, and I just ducked between the cars and run. I wanted him to chase me in the car park as it would save more people in the masjid, but he didn't see me probably," Aziz told Newshub.

I keep on saying people in NZ do not carry guns. Even the police normally do not carry guns on themselves The guns are in the police cars boots

 

[Ernesto]

That was as uncalled for as uncalled for ever gets!
You're implying Trump likes this sort of thing? I mean, Like he's happy about this and promotes this type of behavior??
Get a grip.

Jon, we've seen this here so yes we know what happened. I am a bit confused. I thought NZ had rather severe restrictions on guns.
..................Maybe I'm thinking that Australia has more restrictive regulations? I assumed they would be about the same.
Very sad day Jon. Sadly nothing will stop people bent on mayhem like this.
I mean, ......take away the guns................... Imagine him and 4 crazy friends pouring petro from 5 gallon cans at the mosque entrances and exits and even running inside doing the same thing.
Nobody can stop the nut cases that exist in the world. Maybe the media (Facebook etc) can play a part in not letting these racists connect with each other.
Sad day Jon. The entire world is wondering how this sort of thing could happen .............in of all places, NZ.

Well your wrong, its truth and truth hurts. The shooter made statements about Trump being his hero among other shooters. Quote : "The manifesto also included a single reference to President Donald Trump in which the author asked and answered the question of whether he was a Trump supporter: "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure."

 

[highup]

Well your wrong, its truth and truth hurts. The shooter made statements about Trump being his hero among other shooters. Quote : "The manifesto also included a single reference to President Donald Trump in which the author asked and answered the question of whether he was a Trump supporter: "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure."

The insinuation being made here it that Trump likes people like that guy or that he encourages that type of behavior. If that guy looks up to Trump, do you know why? Nothing Trump has ever said encourages killing people in a church or anywhere else.
I think these guys look up to Pelosi and Schumer.......and Beto and AOC and the entire Democrat open border society.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ms-13-me...ng-16-year-old-100-times-setting-body-on-fire

 

[Ernesto]

Trump spews hate speech and promotes violence all the time, specially in his rallies. Thing is is Fox will never show it so i guess you'll never see it. Lol

 

[Nick]

Fox may as well be called Trump News ..

 

[highup]

You can twist his words into anything you want them to mean. I like what he says and I'm not racist or supremacist. When he starts asking people to murder Muslims in churches, I will absolutely change my tone.

 

[Ernesto]

But trump telling his base at his rallies that its ok to beat people up and offering to pay lawyers fees is called what exactly?
Saying white supremacists walking down the street chanting anti jewish mantras in white hats and torches is that they are good people. Hmmmm
Im confused because no other president has ever done that since maybe Reagan or Nixon. Lol

 

[highup]

The first one was tongue in cheek if you watched it. His good people or nice people comment or whatever it was, I don't know. Has he said anything nice about them since? There aren't enough supremacists to sway an election. Same thing as the nice things he said to Kim? Those were words to maintain a relationship with Kim in hopes of continuing dialogue. Ya think calling him a butcher in public would score points with Kim? Why he didn't condemn the racists I don't know. It doesn't score him any points either way, but it would have been nice. Kinda strange that two comments he made a couple years ago caused a guy to shoot up a mosque last week in another country.

 

[Ernesto]

The nut jobs love him. It dosn't matter. If he said it yesterday or last year, they remember. Oh and i think theres been a few more mosques, synagogues that have been shot up.
What ever.
Ammo is going up because the military is starting to stock up.

 

[highup]

They may look up to the Dali Lama and his parents too, but they don't want them to do that kind of crap. The guy was a nut case, like any other mass shooter. Nothing more to it and no reason to attach violence like that to Trump.
As far as ammo, we for the past year have 22 ammo available all the time. Seems like for 5, 6, 7 years the stores never had any....... when they got some it was horded.

 

[Floorist]

They may look up to the Dali Lama and his parents too, but they don't want them to do that kind of crap. The guy was a nut case, like any other mass shooter. Nothing more to it and no reason to attach violence like that to Trump.
As far as ammo, we for the past year have 22 ammo available all the time. Seems like for 5, 6, 7 years the stores never had any....... when they got some it was horded.

I probably have 5.000 rounds. Cheaper to buy in bulk.

 

[Ernesto]

I probably have 5.000 rounds. Cheaper to buy in bulk.

Thats getting there. The news always freaks out because someone had 1,000 rounds. Like the coast guard guy (nuther nut case was planning to kill democrat politicians) and he had too many guns. Nuthin wrong with stockpiling ammo and guns. But ...

 

[highup]

Nothing wrong with stockpiling, but 22 ammo was so short in supply for years, that stores only got some once in a while and not very much. When some arrived it was "gone in 60 seconds" . Not even worth looking for it because you would have to check every day.
A gun show on AM radio (Tom Gresham) talked about the idiots that have proposed a 20 rounds per month limit on ammo purchases......... geeze some guys fire that many rounds before they get out of their truck at the range. How could anyone target practice or dial in new optics before hunting season with a limit like that? Or practice shooting for home/self defense? Anti gunners don't know anything about that stuff.
They mean well, they're just idiots.

 

[Floorist]

Bricks of 500 22lr are $13.95 now. Had seen them at $50 at one time. I go through 400-500 rounds at the range.

 

[Ernesto]

Big 5 Sports is running a sale on the Ruger 10/22 in stainless for $249. thirty bucks cheaper than anywhere. Had the first one when I was 10 years old and wore it our. Best .22 ever made and still is for the money.
https://ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/specSheets/1256.html

 

[Ernesto]

Bricks of 500 22lr are $13.95 now. Had seen them at $50 at one time. I go through 400-500 rounds at the range.

Five hundred for $13.95? Where's this?

 

[Floorist]

Five hundred for $13.95? Where's this?

Liberty Tree gun store, Carthage Mo.