Installation tips (satire)

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Prestretching works and it's recommended. Ever put a seam together and it's invisible until you stretch it? Tape is fighting the carpet because it stretches at a different rate. If ya haven't tried it, ya can't knock it. I've shown it before. After releasing the prestretched seam it does this. If you seam first then stretch, it fights just as bad as you stretch it. Seam doesn't stretch, but the the carpet does.

 

[Floorist]

Never had a problem. Only restretched one of my jobs in 40+ years and that was defective carpet. Told the store when I installed it that it would need restretched.

 

[DarisMulkin]

As far as prestretching goes I'm not a believer. Only did it to match seams,

I totally agree with this.

 

[Ernesto]

Prestretching works and it's recommended. Ever put a seam together and it's invisible until you stretch it? Tape is fighting the carpet because it stretches at a different rate. If ya haven't tried it, ya can't knock it. I've shown it before. After releasing the prestretched seam it does this. If you seam first then stretch, it fights just as bad as you stretch it. Seam doesn't stretch, but the the carpet does.

In the pics above the tape is humping because the carpet was stretched and the tape wasn't. So essentially the carpet relaxed and the tape didn't because it wasn't stretched. Thus humpty dumpty looking seam.
I've done it both ways. But let me tell you, when I put my power stretcher on a seam, its a moving - tape and all. Try this. Roll out some tape across the room. Pin it to the strip on the opposite and and try and an stretch just the tape and tell me what happens.

 

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Tape stretches far less that the carpet. Those humps show that. At the very least, kick the carpet taught before seaming.

 

[Ernesto]

The humps show that the tape was not stretched. Thats all .

 

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DP

 

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If it does what I showed when the taped seam was relaxed, you saying the tape undergoes no changes in relation to the carpet when stretched?
Why would a manufacturer, a flooring inspector or anyone else recommend doing it? The only people disagreeing have not tried it.

 

[Ernesto]

Maybe you missed my explanition up thread.

 

[Floorist]

Have not prestretched in 45 years and never had a problem. Why would I change now? I have seen a lot of stuff that was recommended that was not right. Go back to the old CRI, stretching directions were wrong.

 

[highup]

Depends on if it's a living room seam or one behind the bed and if it's 12 dollar carpet or 65. I'm not as concerned as how long the job takes as having a happy customer. I'm not done till I'm done. Two things have improved the flatness of my seams. Thermo sealing mostly and pre-stretching where I feel it's most needed.

 

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Maybe you missed my explanation up thread.

Just admit you're wrong, OK?
If a seam gets put together without pre-stretching, usually it's close to invisible. Once stretched, that's when it can show. So why not seam the carpet together in it's stretched in condition so you don't distort it?

 

[Ernesto]

Just admit you're wrong, OK?
If a seam gets put together without pre-stretching, usually it's close to invisible. Once stretched, that's when it can show. So why not seam the carpet together in it's stretched in condition so you don't distort it?

Yours looks way more distorted than mine ever do after seaming. Hehe

 

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I left it that way because it was the kids bedroom. They had remote control trucks and tanks.

 

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Anyone install vinyl this way?
https://www.hunker.com/13402363/how-to-use-contact-cement-on-vinyl-flooring

 

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Me neither.

 

[Jon]

Contact glue as I know it will make these plastic backed vinyls go yellow
A few years ago some layer did a bakery in anti skid Altro? vinyl. The contact glue, sprayed?, had a chemical reaction to the back of the vinyl and there was no glue on the back of the vinyl, it was all on the floor. All the vinyl was just floating

 

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The author has an M.S. in communications whatever that is. I don't think he's ever layed a floor or even seen it being done. Can you imagine cutting the vinyl to fit the room, then moving the vinyl to another room to glue it and then glue the floor, ......and then putting (or attempting to) the floor back into the room when using contact cement? He must make some super accurate line up marks.
Jon, I recall hearing of guys that used contact cement on paper backed vinyl seams and against tubs.

 

[Floorist]

The author has an M.S. in communications whatever that is. I don't think he's ever layed a floor or even seen it being done. Can you imagine cutting the vinyl to fit the room, then moving the vinyl to another room to glue it and then glue the floor, ......and then putting (or attempting to) the floor back into the room when using contact cement? He must make some super accurate line up marks.
Jon, I recall hearing of guys that used contact cement on paper backed vinyl seams and against tubs.

Sounds like he is college edumacated.

 

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