Loose lay carpet issue

[Don Monfils]

I did a job recently. It was commercial level loop carpet in an L-shaped room.
Most of the area is concrete and the shorter part of the L-shape is pressure-treated decking. There is a huge hot tub) and hat was empty at the time of installation in the area with the decking.
I lose laid the long shot, trimmed it in and it layers nice and flat.
Then I had to roll the hot tub ( which was up on dollies ) on top of the loose laid carpet.
I seamed the carpet with my Koolglide iron.
Once everything was trimmed and I rolled the hot tub back into the area where it will be used.
When I left there was a couple slight areas of fullness ( from rolling the tub over the carpet.)
The carpet was not cut too full anywhere.
It was a warm day when I installed it and I hoped it would lay flat.
The fullness is not going away.
Do you thing steaming the areas and putting weight on them would help?

 

[highup]

This is on the concrete area?

 

[Don Monfils]

Yes

 

[JPfloor]

You could try steaming it if the backing is deformed from rolling the heavy load but loose lays, if cut in tight to the wall, are always a risk. I would think you need at least a little bit of space around the perimeter to allow for movement.

 

[C.J.]

What if you folded the carpet back and used some double sided tape where the bubbles are.

 

[Floorist]

The "installers" here would put up a "watch your step" sign. Easier than doing it right.

 

[Tile Tom]

Glue that shit down and be done with it!

I was done doing loose lay anything years ago. They always seem to be an issue. I don't make any money going back for dumb shit. No money = no Tom. I send them down the road if they don't want to.

 

[rugaddict]

Can you back roll it a bit?—- like when you want the edge of an area rug to lay down?

 

[Don Monfils]

This is a rough sketch of the area
I might have to try to pull back the 15 x 19 area into the tub area and glue the part with the concrete.
The dotted line is the seam what is hot melted. The squiggly lines are the area where there is some fullness
The customer did not want me to use glue and I know from experience it’s not good to glue over pressure treated decking.
The two face tape was a good idea but if I go through all the trouble of getting the carpet pulled back that far I probably will just glue the concrete area.
You are right Tom, but this is a customer I’ve done tons of work for and didn’t want to turn him down.
He wanted the carpet under the tub but I should’ve just told him to put the tub where he wants and fill it with water and cut around it.

 

[MSLI]

Hey Don, sounds like the area rug got tweaked from the dolly. I would try tweaking it back using the power stretching. If phase 1 doesn’t work, roll the rug back to the wrinkles, apply sections of double face reducer tape, then lightly stretch and fasten to the pad only.

If phase 3 is needed, maybe cut carpet at hot tube, reposition rug flat, and bind cut edges. Good luck brother!

 

[Tile Tom]

I see they don't want glue for some reason. Another thought . How about trying to stretch twords the decking and toss in a couple staples.... In the decking part?

Also, maybe not warranty anything loose laid? They've been nothing but problems for me in the past.

 

[Floorist]

Is this rubberback or Kangaback? Or just carpet?

 

[Don Monfils]

Leveloop carpet , No pad

 

[MSLI]

Leveloop carpet , No pad

Power out wrinkles and hold carpet in place using hot glue.

 

[Don Monfils]

That’s thinking outside of the box Mike.
That could work.

 

[highup]

Is this rubberback or Kangaback? Or just carpet?

Has kanga back existed since the seventies? I still don't think I've ever seen any.

 

[Floorist]

Has kanga back existed since the seventies? I still don't think I've ever seen any.

Installed some mid 90s. Could have been after 2000

 

[highup]

That’s thinking outside of the box Mike.
That could work.

That's why Mike hangs out here.
He hangs two boxes out.
Just to wrinkles?
...and what size are they if you didn't already bring that up

 

[highup]

Installed some mid 90s.

Was that just "rubber backed" kitchen carpet with that firm, shiney, eurothane foam?

 

[highup]

It was yellow.