Discussing politics and religion

[Floorist]

What I think is crazy. Biden would like for you to be able to sue a gun owner and manufacturer if a gun is stolen and used in a crime. What if a car is stolen and used in a crime? Could you sue GM? What if someone steals a computer and uses it for Ransomware? Could you sue Dell?

 

[Floorist]

I was talking to a Canadian on another forum. You cannot prepare to defend yourself there. You cannot shoot a person even to defend your own life.

 

[C.J.]

What I think is crazy. Biden would like for you to be able to sue a gun owner and manufacturer if a gun is stolen and used in a crime. What if a car is stolen and used in a crime? Could you sue GM? What if someone steals a computer and uses it for Ransomware? Could you sue Dell?

Im waiting for the day when you can sue somebody for being stupid even if they didn’t do anything wrong.

Do other countries (Canada?) have gun violence like we do here? I figured they were so polite that the need or desire to shoot somebody just never arose. Maybe it just too cold. I know what my straight edge feels like when I pull it out of my van on a cold assed day. Can’t imagine a gun is any warmer.

So you’re saying that self defense is not an acceptable defense?

 

[Floorist]

Im waiting for the day when you can sue somebody for being stupid even if they didn’t do anything wrong.

Do other countries (Canada?) have gun violence like we do here? I figured they were so polite that the need or desire to shoot somebody just never arose. Maybe it just too cold. I know what my straight edge feels like when I pull it out of my van on a cold assed day. Can’t imagine a gun is any warmer.

So you’re saying that self defense is not an acceptable defense?

Not according to the Canadian. He said it is illegal to be prepared to defend yourself.

 

[Mark Brown]

You cannot shoot a person even to defend your own life.

It is entirely legal in Canada to defend your life by taking someone's life but you had damn well better hope you can prove there was no other option available to you at the time.

As for being prepared to defend ones self, I can assure you that is legal here as well. I am prepared to defend myself at all times.

Do other countries (Canada?) have gun violence like we do here?

Simply stated, No.
A "mass murder" firearms incident here is when more than one person gets murdered. We own lots of guns in Canada, nothing like in America but there is literally no country on earth where the general population owns even half of the firearms that American's own.... except maybe Serbia.

 

[Floorist]

A Canadian, Bob Sanders, on another forum, insisted it is illegal to be prepared to defend yourself. Is he full of it?

 

[Mark Brown]

There is a possibility that I do not know what "prepared to defend yourself" means but if it means I am able to kill someone I believe is trying to kill me than by all respect to Mr. Bob, yes, he is full of it.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...for-man-accused-of-killing-colten-bushie.htmlAs much as I believe that trial was a miscarriage of justice, it goes to show how easily one can be acquitted of second degree murder or for that manslaughter in Canada. This guy wasn't even in imminent danger.

Of if you want it straight from the horses mouth
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/p5.html

 

[Floorist]

Thanks. I think he just likes to argue with Americans.

 

[Mark Brown]

American's aren't a people to argue with, you are likely to get shot
Kidding aside, there is definitely a more stringent burden of proof than is required in a lot of the United States but pound for pound our laws are not much different. We even removed the necessity some time ago to consider the ability to leave a situation as a determining factor, something that could be loosely equated to "stand your ground" legislation in America. America really has a lot of the same laws on paper as Canada in a lot of regards but their interpretations are usually a bit different.

I like to argue with anyone I think isn't right. Either I prove them wrong, or learn something interesting along the way. That is basically a no lose situation
Sometimes I prove myself wrong, but that is learning, so i win LOL

 

[highup]

What I think is crazy. Biden would like for you to be able to sue a gun owner and manufacturer if a gun is stolen and used in a crime. What if a car is stolen and used in a crime? Could you sue GM? What if someone steals a computer and uses it for Ransomware? Could you sue Dell?

I would hope so. Otherwise the gun issue is racist and others are not.
I'm sorry everything is racist these days.

 

[highup]

I remember him knocking on the TV screen saying wake up to a happy day. And his stupid free hair cut. That’s when the tv commercials were way louder than the tv show you fell asleep to. Tom Peterson (and Gloria’s too) was a straight up pimp even if his furniture was cheap crap. There’s a mural of him painted on a garage? between the McDonalds and his old showroom on 82nd n foster. Free is a very good price.

I forgot about that.
WAKE UP! WAKE UP!

 

[Dan]

What I think is crazy. Biden would like for you to be able to sue a gun owner and manufacturer if a gun is stolen and used in a crime. What if a car is stolen and used in a crime? Could you sue GM? What if someone steals a computer and uses it for Ransomware? Could you sue Dell?

What if, say someone steals an election? Could that SOB be sued?

 

[highup]

What if, say someone steals an election? Could that SOB be sued?

I think that has to do with regulating the media. You can't have the major four or five media organizations promoting one candidate or opposing one candidate. Can you imagine the fake media ignoring the fake Russian scandal and then at every single opportunity, highlighting stories of Joe bumbling his words and getting lost halfway through a sentence?
You think that would have slightly changed the election results?

 

[C.J.]

They said the media can sway the vote as much as 10% to 15%. Everybody is in lockdown and what information they are getting is controlled. I had to turn the news off because it’s not really news anymore. I’m glad the gal at McDonald’s told me about the gas shortage here in NC. Had to hit 2 different stations to top off my tank. Couple other guys had the gas run out on them while they were filling their rigs this morning.

 

[Floorist]

Missouri is the latest state to cut off the pandemic unemployment. Businesses all over the state are crying for help and no one wants to work.

 

[Floorist]

On another forum, a guy who lives in Tennessee said there are 5,000 job openings there in Brownsville and no one will apply.

 

[C.J.]

A guy here has been offering $15. an hour to start in construction with no experience. Raises as they learn. He can find no one.

Is that $15 as an employee or $15 as a 1099. Makes a big difference.

 

[Floorist]

Is that $15 as an employee or $15 as a 1099. Makes a big difference.

Employee.

 

[C.J.]

Might be time to up the starting wage. There’s a local hardwood company here hiring for a delivery position starting at $18/ hr. I gotta admit I was kinda impressed to see that. Or I suppose they could offer $15 and complain that nobody is applying for the job.

 

[havasu]

Australia is giving unemployment payments directly to businesses, so new hired people get a bonus only to work. No work, no pay.