Discussing politics and religion

[havasu]

The sad issue is that he holds the codes to our nuclear arsenal. At least he didn't send mean tweets or say the word "pussy", but now our president touches little girls, smells their hair, and doesn't know how to say anything correct. It is time the libs bought our gas for being so stupid.

 

[highup]

‘We must act’: President Biden calls for tougher gun laws after Sacramento mass shooting

by: Julian Tack
Posted: Apr 3, 2022 / 09:51 PM PDT
Updated: Apr 4, 2022 / 10:19 AM PDT

(KTXL) – President Joe Biden is calling for stricter gun laws, including a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, following the killing of six people in a downtown Sacramento mass shooting this weekend.

In a statement released by the White House on Sunday night, the president said, “Today, America once again mourns for another community devastated by gun violence. In a single act in Sacramento, six individuals left dead and at least a dozen more injured. Families forever changed. Survivors left to heal wounds both visible and invisible.”

President Biden has repeatedly pushed for tougher federal gun laws. In his statement, he called on Congress to ban ghost guns, which are manufactured without serial numbers and cannot be traced. Biden also wants background checks for all gun sales, including private transactions. He also wants firearm manufacturers to be held liable. Currently, they are immune from liability in these kinds of cases.

I think he should just ban stolen hand guns that are modified to shoot fully automatic.
.......yup, that will work out just fine.

 

[havasu]

Just execute those who have been caught possessing firearms after the judge prohibits them.

 

[highup]

Ya think like Elon?

 

[Floorist]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...sedgntp&cvid=ca8d2cf4542b4462b4aa52aeb9d5c01f

 

[highup]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...sedgntp&cvid=ca8d2cf4542b4462b4aa52aeb9d5c01f

I'm betting the didn't ask any pediatricians in California.

 

[Floorist]

Democrats like to call Republicans "Fascists," but here are some facts, chronologically:

- Democrats targeted republicans using the IRS (Lois Lerner) during Obama's tenure

- Democrats spied on Trump's campaign in 2015 using Obama's FBI, ruining the life of Carter Page and he was never charged for a single crime, but he was the "excuse" used to spy on Trump

- Democrats (the Clinton campaign) purchased and planted false news stories in the press about Trump being peed on by Russian hookers and collaborated with the FBI to perpetrate the above spying campaign

- After Trump's win, Democrats launched into a massive "Russia" investigation designed to tie up his presidency for years, under the auspice that Trump was a Russian agent and Russia "stole" the 2016 electoin. It ultimately found nothing ("indicted" a couple dozen Russians in Siberia that have zero chance of being prosecuted) and democrats don't even utter the word "Mueller" anymore today because it was such an embarrassment.

- As fallout from the fake "Russia" investigation, the Democrats pinched Trump's campaign manager on 15 year old tax records and "failing to register" nonsense. They put him into solitary confinement trying to pressure him into providing something with which to incriminate Trump. He wrote a book.

- Also as fallout from the fake "Russia" investigation, the Democrats pinched Trump's former lawyer on some penny-ante "Taxi medallion" nonsense. They went easy on him in return for making disparaging public statements about Trump. He wrote a book. He was more than willing to tell them anything they wanted, however obviously he didn't have any crimes to tell them with which to use against Trump.

- Also during this time the Democrats elevated Stormy Daniels and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti as the people who could finally take down Trump. They propped her up as a hero (she's a pornstar who had a one night stand with Trump 20 years ago), and they held up Michael Avenatti as a PRESIDENTIAL candidate. He's now in jail for years for fraud.

- Not satisfied and not done with the usefulness of Avenatti yet, they also pulled double duty with him to attack Trump's SCOTUS nom, Brett Kavanaugh, with wild, baseless claims of leading a gang rape operation as an 18 year old high school student. The "strong, brave" witness they produced hasn't been heard from since then. That failed too.

- After the Mueller investigation failed, Democrats shifted to "Impeachment 1." This effort was based on Trump asking about shady business dealings that the Bidens were doing in Ukraine. At that point, democrats were worried about tampering with a future election. Two days ago they broke into the safe of the republican front-runner. This impeachment was known to have zero chance of passing the Senate but they did it anyway.

- After Impeachment 1 failed, stories were planted in the new about Trump not pushing Putin on "Bounties" of US soldiers heads. It took a while for this story to completely be debunked as another fabricated attempt to take Trump down.

- After impeachment 1 failed and after the 2020 election, Democrats also impeached Trump AGAIN because a few hundred people were mad about (all of the above) plus the outcome of the 2020 election. They are leveraging that to this day to continue the attacks against Trump. They've thrown people guilty of nothing more than trespassing into the Capitol (a building taxpayers pay for) into solitary confinement. Some people have even received jail sentences up to 7 years!

- The current sitting president, Joe Biden, Ok'ed a raid of Trump's private estate and broke into his safe to search for something else which with to use to prevent him from running against him again in 2024

- During all this time, the Democrat controlled local DA's in NYC have tried and failed to bring cases against him. All have been dismissed so far, even after the DA's ran their campaign on "getting Trump."

- Twitter, controlled by leftists and likely working in conjunction with Democrat political interests, stripped Trump's ability to use the largest social media platform in the world for micro blogging, even at their own financial peril.


All this, mind you, in the past SEVEN YEARS since Trump got into politics. Before that, Trump was not called racist, Jesse Jackson and Rainbow Push happily accepted his donations, other Democrats freely accepted his money, endorsements and influence (including Hillary Clinton), he had a hit TV show on ultra-liberal NBC, etc.

Does this sound like an American political party in the 21st century, or like the Nazis in the 1930s?

WOW! Talk about an outburst by Democrats! They proven they have ZERO qualms about using the power of the state to eradicate (or attempt to) their political opposition. I'm sure I missed some...feel free to add to what I missed.

And if you EVEN DARE to question elections like they did in 2004, 2016, etc. you are branded as "Far Right" and a "Big Liar". You will likely be kicked off social media and/or "canceled."

Which party are the "fascists" again?

 

[Incognito]

Which party are the "fascists" again?

EASY!

BOTH.

 

[MSLI]

EASY!

BOTH.

Fascism : dictatorial leader or group who forcible suppress the opposition.

We are not there yet, so, ironically, do try to suppress the desire to exaggerate, risking, turning a mountain out of a mole hill. Not the best analogy but you get the point.

Yes, we need to address this division, but imho it starts with mentoring respectful language, and it’s easy to choose to do it, especially when we decide to Respect the power of Respect !

Promotion of any kind, through ridicule only breads more of the same. If there was ever a time to mentor respectful language, it is NOW ! …… and for those tempted to perpetuate division under the excuse “ IF ONLY THEY “ come on ! Imho let’s step up our game.

This is why we are at an all time high, a seemingly un - repairable breaking point. An Analogy : if we, as installers, take the easy way, skipping the seam sealer or weld rod, we jeopardize the bond of two separate pieces. Same with Politics, only Respectful language is the bonding agent.

In closing, what do you think about a new party ‘ Respectarians ‘ the two we have are in way tooo deep, they hit rock, and are still digging.

 

[Floorist]

If they are really interested in criminals, where is the warrant for Hunter Biden? He admitted he bought a gun illegally and disposed of it illegally.

 

[Floorist]

The IRS' 77,000 new agents must carry a gun and be willing to use deadly force. According the employment application.

 

[Incognito]

Fascism : dictatorial leader or group who forcible suppress the opposition.

When it becomes obvious that corporations hold more sway over the government than that of the people, this is a step towards fascism.

https://soapboxie.com/government/Wh...he-United-States-a-Fascist-Form-Of-Governance

 

[highup]

Fascism : dictatorial leader or group who forcible suppress the opposition.

We are not there yet, so, ironically, do try to suppress the desire to exaggerate, risking, turning a mountain out of a mole hill. Not the best analogy but you get the point.

Yes, we need to address this division, but imho it starts with mentoring respectful language, and it’s easy to choose to do it, especially when we decide to Respect the power of Respect !

Promotion of any kind, through ridicule only breads more of the same. If there was ever a time to mentor respectful language, it is NOW ! …… and for those tempted to perpetuate division under the excuse “ IF ONLY THEY “ come on ! Imho let’s step up our game.

This is why we are at an all time high, a seemingly un - repairable breaking point. An Analogy : if we, as installers, take the easy way, skipping the seam sealer or weld rod, we jeopardize the bond of two separate pieces. Same with Politics, only Respectful language is the bonding agent.

In closing, what do you think about a new party ‘ Respectarians ‘ the two we have are in way tooo deep, they hit rock, and are still digging.

Respectarians sounds nice but isn't reality. Play that game with China or Russia and you might as well lay down in front of a steamroller. All of what Rusty showed was true. The Democrats and the FBI set up to destroy Trump before he was even elected.
They continued through his entire presidency and now two years later, they are still trying. It not time to reach out and forgive. They will roll him over with a steamroller if he blinks. I liken their tactics to the Chinese. To forgive is to succumb. That isn't happening anytime soon. Remember Pelosi tearing up Trump's State of the Union speech?
......that right there says everything!
If there is peace it will come in the form of an appology from the Democrats. What are the chances?
Zero or considerably less than that?
Me and you and Rusty and the others can be fair and understanding with each other... "We"are not at war with each other.
This is just bar room bsing.
The stuff, the timeline Rusty posted needs to be heard. The mainstream won't talk about it, so if people don't put this kind of stuff out there, its forgotten....... as if it never happened.
It did.
What did Trump do to deserve the treatment he received from before day one? His ego? His Twitter rants. I got over that quickly when I liked virtually everything he was doing..... fulfilling campaign promises.

 

[MSLI]

might as well lay down in front of a steamroller. All of what Rusty showed was true

The right and the left both have books coming out full of truth’s so the answer, ( not the right word ) The Solution is to care less about The Truth and to care more about character. Every human being is flawed when it comes to Truth ! We are tooo creative for our own good and are capable of fooling others and ourselves.

Intentionally or un-intentionally, in this case, with where we are today, it doesn’t matter. WHAT matters is character, are they able to admit, change, adapt, forgive, apologize, be respectful with actions and words and then the BIG ONE, not retaliate ! ! That’s real steam rolling strength there my friends. Anyone can be forceful and destructive, real strength comes from restraint. We can still be defensive, just not offensive. So listen to the media, the candidates, your friends, and everyone and if they are using offensive retaliatory language, call them on it, call yourself on it , like I do to myself every other day and encourage it to stop, but accept them anyway if they don’t , that’s the solution to human pollution, to mentor the behavior you want for you and the world. Anything short of that continues what we have now with just different players.

Real steam rolling strength, sorry Randy ! for using your words, but if not for them, I would not have had mine.

 

[Floorist]

How much ammo has the IRS purchased?


The IRS is a key part of the government, but not one you usually associate with law enforcement and guns. Only the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS can carry guns, but the IRS has been buying more guns and ammunition in recent years, snapping up nearly $700,000 in ammo in early 2022.

 

[Floorist]

 

[highup]

The right and the left both have books coming out full of truth’s so the answer, ( not the right word ) The Solution is to care less about The Truth and to care more about character. Every human being is flawed when it comes to Truth ! We are tooo creative for our own good and are capable of fooling others and ourselves.

Intentionally or un-intentionally, in this case, with where we are today, it doesn’t matter. WHAT matters is character, are they able to admit, change, adapt, forgive, apologize, be respectful with actions and words and then the BIG ONE, not retaliate ! ! That’s real steam rolling strength there my friends. Anyone can be forceful and destructive, real strength comes from restraint. We can still be defensive, just not offensive. So listen to the media, the candidates, your friends, and everyone and if they are using offensive retaliatory language, call them on it, call yourself on it , like I do to myself every other day and encourage it to stop, but accept them anyway if they don’t , that’s the solution to human pollution, to mentor the behavior you want for you and the world. Anything short of that continues what we have now with just different players.

Real steam rolling strength, sorry Randy ! for using your words, but if not for them, I would not have had mine.

The problem is the vast majority are not like what you describe and how people should behave. The reality it never will be because of simple human nature. We're never going to get to a state where everyone is going to be nice and polite to that degree. That may work slightly in the general population but it will never work when it comes to the people that run businesses nor the people who hold power. People who do those things are extremely competitive and in honestly, it's a cutthroat world up there. Talk to Putin and tell him to be nice and take his men and go back home and send letters of apology to the people of the Ukraine.
......never gonna happen.
Politely ask China to stop building islands in international waters and claiming territorial rights. Tell, I mean ask them to stop the Fentenl exports and the copyright, patent infringements and fake or copycat products. Let them know that it's not nice to disrupt Taiwan's current governing structure. Ask them to shut down Tictoc who's sole purpose is gathering information on people's phones and computers for 'the state'. They will laugh at you for asking.
Here on our shores, the Democrats need to stop the hell they have unleashed here. The border problem is so bad now even the DC mayor and police are complaining about it. It's so bad Joe even authorized completing a portion of the border wall, even tho he said he wouldn't.
Ever since Trump supporters were called "deplorables", the name calling has got worse and worse. At every turn, we're called racists, homophobes, zenophobe, white supremacists, neo-Nazi.....
Because it's true? No, because they know those names stick when you lable someone. Democrats show those words out like candy at a parade with no care as to the chaos it causes.
If we lived in a tiny town with 200 residents, I suppose the community could come together and set some protocols on being nicer to each other.
To get 330 + million people to all become civil and nice? Ain't gonna happen ever. Best we can do is being civil and friendly with the people we meet along our life's journeys and hope it spreads.

 

[MSLI]

We're never going to get to a state where everyone is going to be nice and polite to that degree.

Never say never until you dye. We are social beings who can be influenced for the good and it starts with Me ! And You ! Don’t look at the big picture, look at what you can do right now. Slow and steady wins the race. OR !
The Meek shall inherit the Earth. The few can influence the many, that’s why it’s so important to choose men and woman of good character in key positions.

 

[Floorist]

Never say never until you dye. We are social beings who can be influenced for the good and it starts with Me ! And You ! Don’t look at the big picture, look at what you can do right now. Slow and steady wins the race. OR !
The Meek shall inherit the Earth. The few can influence the many, that’s why it’s so important to choose men and woman of good character in key positions.

We have failed miserably at putting good people in key positions.

 

[MSLI]

Ever since Trump supporters were called "deplorables", the name calling has got worse and worse. At every turn, we're called racists, homophobes, zenophobe, white supremacists, neo-Nazi.....
Because it's true? No, because they know those names stick when you lable someone.

That’s why it’s so important to not retaliate. As a matter of fact, don’t even acknowledge those labels. When someone debates none-sense, they give credence to it. Stand up for what you believe by sharing your philosophy rather than addressing the lie. When we take a defensive posture against an allegation that is frivolous, we shine a light on the allegation. Retaliate by taking the high road of none-retaliation Stay true to your message and keep applying the political bonding agent of respect. At this point, both sides continue to retaliate disrespectfully and we the people are stuck in the middle
Not knowing where to go and what to believe. STOP THE INSANITY by refusing to engage, then maybe they will share their plans rather than their criticism.