Nick
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That is what i saw on the news , and it wasn't Fox..
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They lied. You think that someone could pull the trigger 100 times and change magazines (30 rd each) four times in one minute?
Where are the metal detectors at the doors? One with a cop with gun out standing behind it. :army:
You can't even get into ER here without going through one. Everytime the wife went into ER they always caught me with my little pocket knife with the point broken off. Sends me back to the car to get rid of it.
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Daris
You can't even get into ER here without going through one. Everytime the wife went into ER they always caught me with my little pocket knife with the point broken off. Sends me back to the car to get rid of it.
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Daris
On some of the forums that have been discussing the shooting, most on the left are completely against adding any security to the schools. They insist that if AR 15s are banned, shootings will stop. They won't accept the fact that many other guns would produce a worse result. An AR shoots a small fairly weak round. If the shooter would have used a common deer rifle, none of the wounded would have had much of a chance.
Nick
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Google how many rounds a AR 15 can shoot in a minute ..
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I liked the suggestions of boosting security-- bulletproof doors/glass and some protocols to protect the students if a shooter entered. I disagreed with arming the teachers as the main means though, for numerous reasons.
1. We already have problems with cops not knowing when and when not to shoot and many teachers don't want that burden/responsibility.
2. Not all teachers should be around children much less have guns and be around them.
3. What if the kids manage to get the gun away from the teachers?
4. Not all mass shooters are going in the the expectation of coming out alive. Some are on suicide missions and having armed teachers would not deter them-- in some cases, it might make it more enticing because they want to be taken out.
That said, if a teacher is former law enforcement/military and they have been trained to use a gun and how to respond to emergency situations, I don't think they should be barred from having guns at schools-- maybe in a carry conceal situation though. But, I don't think that should be the first line of defense.
1. We already have problems with cops not knowing when and when not to shoot and many teachers don't want that burden/responsibility.
2. Not all teachers should be around children much less have guns and be around them.
3. What if the kids manage to get the gun away from the teachers?
4. Not all mass shooters are going in the the expectation of coming out alive. Some are on suicide missions and having armed teachers would not deter them-- in some cases, it might make it more enticing because they want to be taken out.
That said, if a teacher is former law enforcement/military and they have been trained to use a gun and how to respond to emergency situations, I don't think they should be barred from having guns at schools-- maybe in a carry conceal situation though. But, I don't think that should be the first line of defense.
And as has been pointed out before, if you make the AR 15 illegal, the shooters will find another favorite weapon. Then you make that one illegal, they will find another and so on. You have to get to the root of the problem and that is not a gun. (According to the FBI, AR type rifles are used in less than 2% of gun crimes)
Trump is the ultimate showman. Banning bump stocks. A rubber band or even a belt loop will do the same thing. (videos on youtube)
Nick
In Remembrance
He's the ultimate Something ..
England restricts knives.
The CJA 1988 mainly relates to carrying knives in public places, Section 139 being the most important.
"It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him (or her) in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches." [CJA 1988 section 139(1)]
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British law also covers age restriction on the sale of knives in the Criminal Justice Act 1998:
"It is an offence for any person to sell to a person under the age of 18 any knife, knife blade, razor blade, axe or any other article which has a blade or is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person." [CJA 1988 section 141A]
The CJA 1988 mainly relates to carrying knives in public places, Section 139 being the most important.
"It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him (or her) in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches." [CJA 1988 section 139(1)]
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British law also covers age restriction on the sale of knives in the Criminal Justice Act 1998:
"It is an offence for any person to sell to a person under the age of 18 any knife, knife blade, razor blade, axe or any other article which has a blade or is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person." [CJA 1988 section 141A]
Here you have to be a certain age and have a good reason to buy a can of spray paint. Taggers
I was reading a proposal over there to require all vehicle bumpers, tires and undercarriages be constructed of Nerf.
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Exactly! The cultural attitudes are a huge part of the problem. Several of the shooters were radicalized or part of some hate group. Also, I heard in Austin there were at least 3 bombings recently but the news isn't saying much about it. Some radical nutjobs blew up some mosques and a women's clinic. They also fail to mention that one of the largest death toll attacks on a school in the US involved bombs.
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O lordy......
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/02/05/uniformed-officer-asked-to-leave-gun-free-outback-steakhouse-because-service-weapon.html
Ward said the chain told him there was another customer that was scared for her life who was seated across from the couple, and said she was afraid because police are shooting people.
According to Wards post, This customer went on to demand to be escorted to her vehicle out of fear of being shot.
We need a head shaking smiley........ sheesh. The should have scorted the lady from the establishment.
.....an asked the officer escort her to her car.
here ya go...
interesting fact,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
look at 1996 port Arthur This is the year that Australia implemented forced gun buyback
from '96 to present is 22 years
SO, go from 96 BACK 22 years, all of these mass murders are by gun and there are 15 mass murders.
NOW, From '96 to present, 14 mass murders, The frequency of mass murders has not changed.
but look at the method used to kill.
guns were still used
arson and stabbing are now being used to kill
MY point is, remove guns, and people will just burn you up or stab you
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Ill keep my guns thanks. All of them.
The term common sense gun law make me want to vomit
We need parents to be parents. That would solve a lot of this. Our society is disgusting.
You cant demand that people be able to say and do anything they want, and then blame guns when they turn out to be socially inept psychopaths.
The term common sense gun law make me want to vomit
We need parents to be parents. That would solve a lot of this. Our society is disgusting.
You cant demand that people be able to say and do anything they want, and then blame guns when they turn out to be socially inept psychopaths.
