Gun free zone

[MSLI]

...I had no clue Trudeau was an admirer of China's communist system. The US is headed that way. Trudeau loves his power and control and listening to him talk makes me feel bad for his prisoners.
For a total commie takeover, he needs Gavin Newsome as his VP.
Peas in a pod.
.......and take BBC and PBS up there too. Disgustingly liberal and partisan.
Just watched the PBS partison hour.

Change the name Trudeau to the other ‘ T’
Name and many people pbs, bbc, and other channel listeners would agree with that China control exaggeration. I agree we need to err on the side of caution, but
IMHO IF We can’t see the Forrest from the Tree, we may mistakenly burn it down and still be stuck with the same issues.

What is the issue Mike ? I’m glad you asked ….. If we STOP Look and Listen to each other a Scosh more than our judgmental selves , we may be surprised that the opponents intention, surprisingly start to sound similar to ours. Now all we have to do is cooperate together with the CONTROL SETTING ON THE THERMOSTAT, and apply sound lesson learned philosophy and forgiveness when mistakes happen.

 

[highup]

I like the double meaning / Irony of that statement High, but please elaborate on your thoughts. However, I challenge you to listen to his comments again, but this time without a preconceived notion that this guy has an agenda. Take his comments on face value and then give us your free speech reply.

The cops had guns and didn't attempt to use them to protect the children.
The moron speaking said this was proof that more guns are not the solution.

 

[highup]

Change the name Trudeau to the other ‘ T’
Name and many people pbs, bbc, and other channel listeners would agree with that China control exaggeration. I agree we need to err on the side of caution, but
IMHO IF We can’t see the Forrest from the Tree, we may mistakenly burn it down and still be stuck with the same issues.

What is the issue Mike ? I’m glad you asked ….. If we STOP Look and Listen to each other a Scosh more than our judgmental selves , we may be surprised that the opponents intention, surprisingly start to sound similar to ours. Now all we have to do is cooperate together with the CONTROL SETTING ON THE THERMOSTAT, and apply sound lesson learned philosophy and forgiveness when mistakes happen.

Where does one get the idea that Trump wants to be a communist style dictator? Media indoctrination I'm guessing.

 

[Floorist]

I like the double meaning / Irony of that statement High, but please elaborate on your thoughts. However, I challenge you to listen to his comments again, but this time without a preconceived notion that this guy has an agenda. Take his comments on face value and then give us your free speech reply.

But the man has an agenda, he is like most Democrats and anti gun. It would be easier to make us communist without us having guns.

 

[MSLI]

Where does one get the idea that Trump wants to be a communist style dictator? Media indoctrination I'm guessing.

Exactly ! The answer or answers are often found in the question itself. Imho, He was the catalyst of indoctrination when he came out with one of the many catch phrases “ FAKE NEWS “ This term opened the door, “ To Close the
Door “ to our Free Press. NO FREE PRESS EQUALS DICTATION !

When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change, but how can you look at things differently, when we are being told it’s Fake ! ! ?
When we disregard, disrespect, and demonize the opponent, we are traveling down the path of dictatorship.

This article is LONG, but interesting
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...-a-Trump-dictatorship-What-s-behind-the-fears

 

[MSLI]

The cops had guns and didn't attempt to use them to protect the children.
The moron speaking said this was proof that more guns are not the solution.

The gentleman’s words are for one reason only and that is to find a way to protect children in schools. Forget about Mr. Almighty second admend. We are all concerned about the lives of children. To assume any and all agendas only opens Jerry Springers Pandora’s box
Just because one or a million trillion people think it’s a Moronic way of thinking
doesn’t make it so, because When the shit or in this case ‘ the bullets hit the children’ any and everything suggested needs to be placed on the table of cooperative discussion. That process and interventions by all will most likely yield an appropriate outcome .

Mike ! That sounds all well and philosophically good, but what about when the rubber hits the road ? Thanks for asking :

We have no way of knowing the outcome if the officers or armed staff intervened, but what we do know is that children died and mistakes got made. Don’t turn that into a one size fits all solution. Stop Look and Listen to everyone, then only comment about the real issues, not the subset ones.

 

[Floorist]

Our press is extremely left leaning.

 

[MSLI]

Our press is extremely left leaning.

Sorry ! Not a good excuse to Lean / Shove back in a desperate attempt to find balance.

 

[Floorist]

Sorry ! Not a good excuse to Lean / Shove back in a desperate attempt to find balance.

You should always fight tyranny. Unless you are a coward.

 

[MSLI]

You should always fight tyranny. Unless you are a coward.

I agree, but we must give the tyrants a chance to backtrack in a respectfully cooperative way, because Tyranny against Tyranny equals Tyranny

 

[Floorist]

I agree, but we must give the tyrants a chance to backtrack in a respectfully cooperative way, because Tyranny against Tyranny equals Tyranny

The demonrats have refused to back track. We need a revolution. Either help or get out of the way.

 

[MSLI]

The demonrats have refused to back track. We need a revolution. Either help or get out of the way.

Imho, The Revolution has already started, with 20 percent inpatient revolutionaries on both the left and on the right They will create havoc for a little while, but the 60 percent Liberal Conservatives and Conservative Liberals will eventually prevail…… So ! I propose that we save the bullets for a real threat, not this one generated by master marketers.

FYI > Rusty I respect your convictions, even though IMHO they are unwarranted.

 

[Floorist]

If a demonrat president could, they would take all guns by force. They have said so.
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D – CA) does. “Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” – Associated Press, 18 November, 1993. “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them; “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,” I would have done it.” – 60 Minutes on CBS, 5 February, 1995. …“The National Guard fulfills the militia mentioned in the Second amendment. Citizens no longer need to protect the states or themselves.”

Senator Frank Launtenberg (D – NJ) did. “We have other legislation that all of you are aware that I have been so active on, with my colleagues here, and that is to shut down the gun shows.”

“I will get the NRA shut down for good if I become president. If we can ban handguns we will do it.”-Hillary Clinton interview with Des Moines Register Aug. 8th, 2015

Fmr. Senator Howard Metzenbaum (D – OH) did. “No, we’re not looking at how to control criminals … we’re talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns.” – Constitution Subcommittee, 2 February, 1989

Vice President Joe “Buckshot” Biden (D – DE) does. “Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.” – Associated Press, 11 November, 1993 Representative Jan Schakowski (D – IL) does. “I believe…..this is my final word……I believe that I’m supporting the Constitution of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a handgun….” – Recorded 25 June, 2000 by Matt Beauchamp

Fmr. Representative Major Owens (D – NY) did. “We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose.”

Representative Bobby Rush (D – IL) does. “My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don’t have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that’s the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation.”

Vermont State Mary Ann Carlson (D) does. “We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime.”

New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) does. ” …confiscation could be an option…” Sarah Brady, fmr. Chairman of Handgun Control Inc. (now The Brady Campaign) does. “…I don’t believe gun owners have rights.” – Hearst Newspapers, October 1997 “The House passage of our bill is a victory for this country! Common sense wins out. I’m just so thrilled and excited. The sale of guns must stop. Halfway measures are not enough.” – 1 July, 1988…

“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” – The National Educator, January 1994, pg. 3, to Fmr. Senator Howard Metzenbaum

Fmr. Chancellor of Boston University John Silber did. “I don’t believe anybody has a right to own any kind of a firearm. I believe in order to obtain a permit to own a firearm, that person should undergo an exhaustive criminal background check. In addition, an applicant should give up his right to privacy and submit his medical records for review to see if the person has ever had a problem with alcohol, drugs or mental illness . . . The Constitution doesn’t count!”

Fmr. United States Attorney General Janet “Waco” Reno does. “The most effective means of fighting crime in the United States is to outlaw the possession of any type of firearm by the civilian populace.”-- Written affidavit by Fred Diamond, 1984 B’nai B’rith meeting in Coral Gables, Florida

Deborah Prothrow-Stith, of the Office of Government and Community Programs and the Community Violence Prevention Project at the Harvard School of Public Health, does. “My own view on gun control is simple: I hate guns and I cannot imagine why anybody would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.” The ACLU does. “We urge passage of federal legislation … to prohibit … the private ownership and possession of handguns.” ACLU #47.

“I now think the only way to control handgun use is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution. — M. Gartner, then President of NBC News, USA Today, January 16, 1992, pg. A9.

 

[MSLI]

All of those people from the past have one common goal, I mean unrealistic hope, that less guns or no guns will prevent innocent deaths. It’s a risk reward discernment, that they feel is worth it. Maybe 100 years ago the risk would have been higher than the reward but today, we are quite stable, even with the Social Media growing pains, because imho, it’s coming at us by master marketing manipulators who want us to believe we aren’t stable at all. …. SO ! I say Stand down, by standing tall with guarded restraint. United we stand.

 

[Floorist]

All of those people from the past have one common goal, I mean unrealistic hope, that less guns or no guns will prevent innocent deaths. It’s a risk reward discernment, that they feel is worth it. Maybe 100 years ago the risk would have been higher than the reward but today, we are quite stable, even with the Social Media growing pains, because imho, it’s coming at us by master marketing manipulators who want us to believe we aren’t stable at all. …. SO ! I say Stand down, by standing tall with guarded restraint. United we stand.

You are wrong. If all guns were gone, no one could fight them over turning the US into a communist state. That is their goal. They know that banning guns has not stemmed violence anywhere.

 

[MSLI]

You are wrong. If all guns were gone, no one could fight them over turning the US into a communist state. That is their goal. They know that banning guns has not stemmed violence anywhere.

To quote Ronald Regan : there you go again with the ‘ IF ‘ word It’s a word that makes us look back into the past and regret it, or uncover the crystal ball and attempt to see into the fearful future.
Live in the present moment, and if you don’t like it, make improvements, rinse and repeat. Agonizing over all these negative phantasy’s is only going to reinforce them and it could turn them into imaginary truths and that’s IMHO misplaced intelligence.

PS> They’ve unsuccessfully been trying to take them for decades, and the only recent President who banned anything
( bump stocks ) was Trump.

Relax ! No one is coming, even if Democrats win every election here on out.

In recent history, how many amendments have been removed ?

 

[MSLI]

You are wrong.

I wasn’t trying to be right, so then how can it be wrong

Life is full of discernible decisions, so we decide as confident as we can, but truly there really are very few ( 10 last time I checked ) Rights and Wrongs

 

[highup]

See what happens when I miss a day.
Fake news is an accurate term.
Denying Hunters laptop was genuine was proof of that.
95%+ of news mentioning Trump was negative and virtually never a harsh word towards Biden for 8 years.
That's fake news, not remotely close to reality.

 

[MSLI]

See what happens when I miss a day.
Fake news is an accurate term.
Denying Hunters laptop was genuine was proof of that.
95%+ of news mentioning Trump was negative and virtually never a harsh word towards Biden for 8 years.
That's fake news, not remotely close to reality.

Proper and improper Terminology, IMHO can make us or break us, when finding the reality is needed. Let’s use Fake News vs. Biased News as an example.
The term ‘ Fake News ‘ is a direct ridicule/ bullying tactic that applies disrespect towards the opposition….. The term
‘ Biased News’ on the other hand, is a direct acknowledge
that maybe partly affiliation could be the reason for the disconnect

The second difunctional thing fake news does, is that we loose trust in the free press.

 

[highup]

Proper and improper Terminology, IMHO can make us or break us, when finding the reality is needed. Let’s use Fake News vs. Biased News as an example.
The term ‘ Fake News ‘ is a direct ridicule/ bullying tactic that applies disrespect towards the opposition….. The term
‘ Biased News’ on the other hand, is a direct acknowledge
that maybe partly affiliation could be the reason for the disconnect

The second difunctional thing fake news does, is that we loose trust in the free press.

I'd settle for biased news, but being they're obnoxious, angry and lie to influence the election, I'd prefer fake news.
When I heard the lady who's on with Joe Scarborough say that Trump bumbles his words and can't speak without a teleprompter....... then Scarborough looked straight into the camera and said "Biden is in his best form EVER"
.........that's beyond bias. The "news" is the only reason Biden got elected. There was only about 40 or 45 thousand votes that would have given Trump enough electoral votes to win in '20
Imagine the fake news spending a small amount of time showing Biden bumbling his words, falling down and not knowing how to walk off stage after speaking.
.....while at the same time acknowledging that the border wall was working (instead of calling Trump a racist)
Also acknowledging Hunters laptop being real and doing an in depth look at the real reason 50 "high ranking security officials". Somehow got sent a letter to sign, all agreeing that the laptop "had all the markings of Russian disinformation"
The FBI had it in early December of 2019..... It would take them 1/2 a day to realize it was authentic. I knew it was real and I'm a floor layer.... Everyone knew it was real. Even the FBI.
When Trump gets in, and on day one, the FBI, attorney general and Homeland Security directors need the boot.
Fake news elected Joe, so I'll keep using that word. Biased, tho relatively accurate is to tame.