Insanity

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Location, location, location. Probably takes a pretty sharp man to make a place like that thrive. I'm guessing he was a better carpenter than manager/promoter. His idea wasn't bad. Probably should have included an animal park to attract people with kids. 'course he would have needed untold millions to do that.

 

[zannej]

From what I understand, he built it way out of the way & then sued to get taxpayers to cover the expense of building a road out to it (which cost millions of $) and then he charged something like $75 per person. The park itself wasn't damaged, but the roads to it were overrun with mudslides. The roads were cleared/repaired at taxpayer expense, but the greedy bugger wanted $$ to make up for lost business while the roads were out. He used to be a teacher but I think he figured he could make a lot more $$ giving speeches & trying to convince people that the Bible is literal truth & that the universe is only 6,000 years old.
I saw a couple of his debates. He's smug and obnoxious.

 

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He thought that religious people would make him rich. But without real animals, no one wants to see it.

He should have just started a Sunday morning TV show if he wanted to get rich.

 

[zannej]

I wonder if he tried to get a TV show. I know he charged people money to listen to him blather on about BS & he would have "debates". Maybe he felt it was too much work & figured if he just had an amusement park built with donations from suckers & forced taxpayers to help fund some parts that he'd just live high off the hog without having to work.

 

[zannej]

Saw this article & had a good laugh. "accidentally" fsss. https://www.military.com/daily-news...entally-resulted-sky-penis-officials-say.html

 

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Didn't another pilot get in trouble a while back for the same thing?
If the contrail looked like Betty Boop, it was Daris drivin' da plane.

 

[zannej]

I don't have the link right now, but did anyone see the news story about water in some town coming out pink? The water authority said it was "safe to drink if diluted" but might damage clothes. My question was: With what do they expect people to dilute it?
Then someone posted a photo of a notice they had from their water company informing them that the water had arsenic in it but to go ahead & drink it, it would be fine- but if they were in poor health, were pregnant, nursing, had immune problems, or other ailments that they should consult their doctors before drinking it-- oh, and that they wouldn't need to filter it and absolutely should not buy bottled water instead. It said the timeframe for getting rid of the arsenic was 1 year.

 

[Floorist]

I don't have the link right now, but did anyone see the news story about water in some town coming out pink? The water authority said it was "safe to drink if diluted" but might damage clothes. My question was: With what do they expect people to dilute it?
Then someone posted a photo of a notice they had from their water company informing them that the water had arsenic in it but to go ahead & drink it, it would be fine- but if they were in poor health, were pregnant, nursing, had immune problems, or other ailments that they should consult their doctors before drinking it-- oh, and that they wouldn't need to filter it and absolutely should not buy bottled water instead. It said the timeframe for getting rid of the arsenic was 1 year.

Well fluoride is poison and they give it to everyone.

 

[zannej]

I think the fluoride is used in small quantities, but it's probably not a good idea to go adding stuff to potable water. Singapore has been using fluoride for years but it hasn't killed anyone (yet).

As for arsenic, the letter from the water company said something about it being "natural" but they commented that there was a new factory nearby where one of the byproducts was arsenic. I can't remember the exact numbers but water co. said the acceptable amount of arsenic was something like 10 something & that the current rate was 35 something.

I can't see the word "arsenic" without thinking of the movie 'Arsenic and Old Lace'.

 

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DP once more.

 

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https://whyclimatechanges.com/
........but they said the science is settled and we need carbon taxes and electric cars.
https://whyclimatechanges.com/impossible/

 

[zannej]

I wouldn't mind moving away from fossil fuels for vehicles & trying to have more sustainable solutions that do less harm to the environment. Of course, the waste from building batteries ins't good either. We still use fossil fuels in plastic products & many other things. I kind of wish that solar panels on cars would be cool if they could figure out how to make it work. Could charge the battery without overcharging in sunny places. It wouldn't be anything done immediately, but over time phasing in newer tech would be nice. Remember when they thought we'd have flying cars by the year 2000?

I do think we should recycle more just to not have so much trash in landfills or spilling in to the oceans. One thing that bugs me is prescription medicine bottles. It seems a waste to not clean & re-use them, or to recycle them somehow. Having more recycling facilities would create more jobs for people to sort through to make sure the right materials are in the right bins & such.

 

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Need to standardize plastic containers so more items could be recycled efficiently. Recycling means transporting the materials to a processing location. That alone takes a lot of energy and is probably the biggest problem. I live 120 miles from a large city and we are the largest city on the Oregon coast.

 

[zannej]

Need to standardize plastic containers so more items could be recycled efficiently. Recycling means transporting the materials to a processing location. That alone takes a lot of energy and is probably the biggest problem. I live 120 miles from a large city and we are the largest city on the Oregon coast.

Good point. That's why I think setting up more facilities could help. But, ultimately it would still have to be transported to places to re-use. Right now it gets hauled to places to be put in landfills or dumped who-knows-where. Guam dumps it's waste over the Marianas Trench.

It would probably be worth it in the long run to reduce the sheer amount of garbage that is being dumped though. If more recycling plants were set up as well, it could help. There is no perfect solution, but we could at least try & see what works.

 

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All about reality. If you can transport $800 worth of waste plastic and it takes a day to get it to a true recycle/processing plant and it takes $250 in fuel and $500 for a truck and driver fee you probably aren't gonna make it fly. My numbers are all made up, but if it was cheap it would be getting done.
How about building more processing plants? I mean plastic cleaning/melting plants. Probably costs millions............ and then you still have to transport that ready to use plastic to a plastic manufacturing plant to make the products.

 

[zannej]

I wonder what the actual costs are for the transportation & recycling of stuff. I know in some places they've tackled it with having higher fees/taxes for services like picking up recycled waste. Where my sister lives they have separate pickup for paper/cardboard products, plastic, & aluminium. She has to put the stuff in separate bins & the city sends someone to pick it all up.

As it is, the trash is already being picked up and hauled somewhere anyway. Where I live they firs haul stuff to the city dump, then they send larger vehicles to come get it & haul it somewhere else. (City dump is one of my pet peeves btw, they are only open 3 days a week, and one of those days is a half day & they take 2-hour lunch breaks so they are maybe open like 4 hours 2 days a week and 2 hours the 3rd day).

I realize I'm no expert on this, but I'm hoping there is a better solution that what we're doing now.

I'm railing about this and I don't even get trash pickup where I live. I have to either burn it all or drive it out to have it picked up & hope my trash cans don't get stolen again. I tried taking it to the city dump before, but its hard to find them open. Even when they are supposed to be open sometimes they aren't.

 

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If there was money to be made, someone would be doing it.
Don't need to worry about that in Oregon. The Governoris has a bill ready for her signature banning Stryrofoam, plastic shopping bags, straws and plastic eating utensils.
Because Oregonians voted for it you ask? How silly, the gestapo knows better what we want. They just create whatever rules they want and write it into law. Maybe we just need to outlaw voting here. Their way is so much faster and cheaper. Our legislature want's to outshine California with it's dumassnessness.
......I can't wait for them to start building our train to........ wherever.

 

[zannej]

I guess it comes down to what is more important then: Profit/money or the health of the environment & ultimately people because this will come to affect us-- it already has in many ways. Sometimes things are worth it even if they aren't profitable.
Outlawing styrofoam & plastics is pretty dumb though.

 

[Floorist]

I think the fluoride is used in small quantities, but it's probably not a good idea to go adding stuff to potable water. Singapore has been using fluoride for years but it hasn't killed anyone (yet).

As for arsenic, the letter from the water company said something about it being "natural" but they commented that there was a new factory nearby where one of the byproducts was arsenic. I can't remember the exact numbers but water co. said the acceptable amount of arsenic was something like 10 something & that the current rate was 35 something.

I can't see the word "arsenic" without thinking of the movie 'Arsenic and Old Lace'.

Even the ADA says that fluoride is bad for infants and the elderly.

 

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Even the ADA says that fluoride is bad for infants and the elderly.

Neither of them have teeth.