Los Angeles wildfires, 2025

[havasu]

A statement from law enforcement which I have copy/pasted.

Ultimately, if there aren’t people held personally accountable in the LA municipal government for this fire disaster, it will make a mockery of the system, city politics and the Democrat party. Yep, it’s a stretch in today’s political environment, but if there was ever an example of blatant malfeasance by public figures, it’s this one. If they slide, then it sets a precedent and a model of sidestepping accountability for future generations.

 

[highup]

And the environmentalists blocked them from cleaning out the brush.

...and they don't like the areal tankers scooping up sea water and dumping it on the flames. Rock and a hard place.

 

[C.J.]

And the environmentalists blocked them from cleaning out the brush.

Makes me think of a pedestrian getting hit by a car in a crosswalk. It may be someone else’s fault but you’re still the one dead. Isn’t that why one of the first things your taught is to look both ways before you cross the road?? I think as humans we have forgotten the basic rules of life and no longer look both ways before we cross the road. We just assume the other person is looking out for us. Now here we are after the fact looking for someone to blame.

...and they don't like the areal tankers scooping up sea water and dumping it on the flames. Rock and a hard place.

That’s gonna be a whole different problem down the road. Then again, if nothing grows, maybe the problem will solve itself.

 

[highup]

Makes me think of a pedestrian getting hit by a car in a crosswalk. It may be someone else’s fault but you’re still the one dead. Isn’t that why one of the first things your taught is to look both ways before you cross the road?? I think as humans we have forgotten the basic rules of life and no longer look both ways before we cross the road. We just assume the other person is looking out for us. Now here we are after the fact looking for someone to blame.



That’s gonna be a whole different problem down the road. Then again, if nothing grows, maybe the problem will solve itself.

If there's enough salt,will it absorb the rainfall, thus stopping a landslide?
........asking for a friend.

 

[C.J.]

If there's enough salt,will it absorb the rainfall, thus stopping a landslide?
........asking for a friend.

You ever hear about the Roman’s salting the earth after they conquered a city. It changes the soil making it so that nothing will grow there. Same thing will happen if you irrigate your land with saltwater. The water evaporates leaving salt behind. Do it for long enough and that’s it. Then what?

 

[highup]

......well then, that solved one problem.
No ground cover to ever burn again.
How about concrete lawns.... Dyed concrete (never have to paint it)
Large gutters and drain systems to carry the rainwater down towards the ocean, but not before going through large generator turbines. (Making dam removal acceptable again)

 

[highup]

Enough of my antics. From a shipping channel, some how's and whys with something constructive.

 

[MSLI]

And the environmentalists blocked them from cleaning out the brush.

It takes two to screw things up.

The environmentalists’ambitious strengths’ became a blinding weakness and the opposition’s laziness, turning a blind eye, created the disaster …. That’s why it’s so important for society to have engagement with opposition, not animosity.

Both sides are 100% guilty of that and Who’s going to start the fight fight fight against animosity plans, that divide, and take the high road to engage ? …. How about all of us and the sooner the better.

I don’t know about you, but if someone or some group in my community was doing something that put others in real harm’s way ( like ending fire breaks) especially if those breaks have a tried and true history of working. I would not allow environmentalists to block my firm respectful response.

If we teach and apply this concept, then all tragedies can be blamed on all of us. United we stand divided we fall.

 

[Floorist]

It takes two to screw things up.

The environmentalists’ambitious strengths’ became a blinding weakness and the opposition’s laziness, turning a blind eye, created the disaster …. That’s why it’s so important for society to have engagement with opposition, not animosity.

Both sides are 100% guilty of that and Who’s going to start the fight fight fight against animosity plans, that divide, and take the high road to engage ? …. How about all of us and the sooner the better.

I don’t know about you, but if someone or some group in my community was doing something that put others in real harm’s way ( like ending fire breaks) especially if those breaks have a tried and true history of working. I would not allow environmentalists to block my firm respectful response.

If we teach and apply this concept, then all tragedies can be blamed on all of us. United we stand divided we fall.

People tried to block the environmentalists, but they had the California government behind them. It became illegal to cut the brush.

 

[MSLI]

People tried to block the environmentalists, but they had the California government behind them. It became illegal to cut the brush.

I bet those people ( conservatives or liberals) wish they would have continued the fight fight fight. That’s the point ! That’s the lesson ! We can’t make improvements on our own ambitious strengths, because we know what we know, but we don’t know what we don’t know. That’s why we actually need the opposing points of view before implementing strategies, rules and regulations…… does that make sense ?

 

[Floorist]

The people fought until they were defeated.

 

[MSLI]

The people fought until they were defeated.

When we speak in term of winning, and de-feat, then we are limiting our capacity to unite , by holding de-hands

If the concerns of any opposition ( Libs, Conservatives) are valid and have a history of reliability, ( like fire breaks ) then that concern must be addressed and implemented in some fashion, otherwise the old default plans remain operational. If we truly want to MAGA, or MAIA, A Hawaiian acronym for
make Americans improved Again then Bipartisanship is where it starts.

Let’s call it Bipartisanship Improvements. A set of principled procedures that elected officials follow during sequestered meetings, The same way we treat jurors on a trial being sequestered could be the same way We treat politicians creating new rules and regulations. ….. If the system is broke we must fight fight fight for united improvements. Otherwise we continue this divide and conquer bull shiitake mushrooms dis function of Winner’s and De-featist’s, when we could be united and take equal responsibility for success and failures together.
By holding DE-HANDS

Did that make sense ? We are only as strong as the weakest link, don’t be or allow weakness to persist, but remember the golden rule, divide and conquer is off the table, otherwise you are now the weakest link.

Bipartisanship improvements, not for the win, but for the unity.

 

[Floorist]

When we speak in term of winning, and de-feat, then we are limiting our capacity to unite , by holding de-hands

If the concerns of any opposition ( Libs, Conservatives) are valid and have a history of reliability, ( like fire breaks ) then that concern must be addressed and implemented in some fashion, otherwise the old default plans remain operational. If we truly want to MAGA, or MAIA, A Hawaiian acronym for
make Americans improved Again then Bipartisanship is where it starts.

Let’s call it Bipartisanship Improvements. A set of principled procedures that elected officials follow during sequestered meetings, The same way we treat jurors on a trial being sequestered could be the same way We treat politicians creating new rules and regulations. ….. If the system is broke we must fight fight fight for united improvements. Otherwise we continue this divide and conquer bull shiitake mushrooms dis function of Winner’s and De-featist’s, when we could be united and take equal responsibility for success and failures together.
By holding DE-HANDS

You don't understand, I guess. The liberals refused to budge, and they controlled everything.

 

[MSLI]

You don't understand, I guess. The liberals refused to budge, and they controlled everything.

Exactly ! It starts and ends with Understanding. What does? EVERYTHING ! ! ….. Me and you with this debate. I’m not foolish, I understand how the system works and the system is broke would you not agree?

I think it’s about time we teach ourselves to debate the opposition in reverse. In other words, before presenting a position, there must be an understanding of the opposition’s position. Maybe send them off to a Dalmatian plantation to find improvements. I’m not trying to be a wise butt tox, just adding some comedy along the way.

 

[highup]

Comedy=sanity . Gotta cope somehow.