Multiple issues on Windows 7 Ultimate

[havasu]

Your brother seems to cause you alot of problems. I wonder if you stick a stamp on his forehead, the mailman would pick him up?

 

[Nick]

Processor is running around 150F
Mainboard 105F
Graphics card 128F
HardDisk 112F

Definitely need to get it cooled off in there.

I used to have a temperature display and fan control on the case, but my brother set it in the back of the car without bracing it and a friend threw the hatch open so the computer flew out and crashed on the driveway hard. Some external pieces broke off. I was amazed everything still worked afterward.

Way to hot , Should be around 54

 

[zannej]

Way to hot , Should be around 54

That's 54 Celsius not Fahrenheit from what I've read though. Processor is running around 60C though, so it is higher than it should be. Motherboard is 40C, graphics 53C, and hard drive 44C.

I have a fan that can fit in a spare slot that I want to see if I can have put in and hooked up. If it works it might help to cool.

havasu, I'm about at my wit's end with my brother right now. I'll spare you from the rant.

Edit to add: I'm currently downloading the Drive Fitness Test for my hard drive. It's a 2mb file but it's got 2minutes left to go on the download. Throttled internet... #firstworldproblems

Finally loaded but it wants to burn a copy to a DVD and I don't have any burnable DVDs. LOL. I think I should just get my files transferred over to my new drive.

 

[Nick]

Motherboard - 40C

Video - 53C

HDD - 44C

Those are good temps. Forget F with computers and PLEASE use C, as that is what I'm looking for and will find.

Your temps are fine .

 

[Nick]

Just took another look at your post . Your Cpu is to high.

As for the CPU, 72.4°C is max
And my panic level sets in at 65C as my curiosity takes hold at about 58C. Reason, at 67C, cpu's have been know to flip bits at 67C and that causes damage to the OS.

Here is a working link for your HD.

https://www.hgst.com/support/hard-drive-support/downloads

 

[zannej]

Thanks, Nick.

I turned up the fan knobs on my case and pointed my table fan directly at the back of the computer for a few hours so now it has cooled off. it's also night so it isn't as warm in the house.

Temps:
CPU 50C
Mainboard 40C
Graphics 51C
HD 44C

I may have to just set up a little fan to blow cold air on the back of the PC to help cool it from now on.

I'll see if the program in your link will work to diagnose the drive.

Right now it is taking forever to download. My ISP has not been uncapping my speed when it is supposed to.

Edit: Ok. downloaded it and ran it and it didn't have any HD in the list. It came with two exe files.. One called setup, but I don't know what the program was exactly. Do I need to run the setup one to run the DFT?

On a side note, if I cloned my HD and copied it over to a new one, would it corrupt the new one? Or would it likely be ok if the problem is the old one having bad sectors or some sort of mechanical failure of sorts? I want to keep my software, preferences, etc, without having to reinstall everything.

Edit again: So, I ran the setup file to install the software and the ran the software, but it isn't showing any harddisks in the list so I can't get it to do anything.

 

[Nick]

On a side note, if I cloned my HD and copied it over to a new one?

You are putting the same errors on the new drive .

Run Speedtest.net see what your download, and upload is .

http://www.speedtest.net/

 

[zannej]

On a side note, if I cloned my HD and copied it over to a new one?

You are putting the same errors on the new drive .

Run Speedtest.net see what your download, and upload is .

http://www.speedtest.net/

The problem is we went over the ISP's monthly limit because the ISP's server is counting our usage during the time when it isn't supposed to be counting-- it seems to have us on the wrong plan or wrong time zone. So we are severely throttled. There are also problems with the web acceleration software that cause it to miscalculate our actual usage.

Additionally, the signal to noise ratio is only 3.3dB and it should be at least 7. Ideally it should be 8 or 9.

I may have to deal with the myrtle tree next to the dish.

Meanwhile: Speed test

Yeah, didn't think the cloned thing would work.

Not sure why the diagnostic thing for the HD won't work. I don't know if it is a case of PEBKAC or if my computer is just having issues with it.

 

[Nick]

Try this link Z.

http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/

Have to go out , Will check back later .

 

[Nick]

Z, Download GSmartControl for Windows and save it to your desktop, http://gsmartcontrol.en.softonic.com/
Unzip the folder to your desktop
Double click gsmartcontrol.exe
Allow the program to search for and list your hard drive(s)
Double click your drive
Go to the PERFORM TESTS tab
Make sure that the TEST TYPE is set to SHORT SELF-TEST
Click the EXECUTE button
After the test completes, click the VIEW OUTPUT button and copy and paste the contents in your reply

 

[zannej]

Thanks, Nick. Trying to download the software, but it says it still has 3 minutes to go. My ISP is not unthrottling me when it should.
It should have been uncapped an hour ago.

 

[Jon]

Mine is 26, 9.26 with an upload 0.94

 

[zannej]

I rebooted my modem to try to fix the issue, but it didn't work, so I had to call technical support. They had to reboot it on their end while I rebooted the router. My modem has consistently not been getting unthrottled at the appropriate time, so I'm going to hit my ISP up for more bandwidth as compensation because I've been having problems.

This is my speed test when I am NOT capped (note, I will always have high ping because it's satellite):

Nick, my computer just hates these programs apparently. I think it's so corrupted it is causing things to fail. The drive is several years old though.

However, I did get this from the Attributes tab:

smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-w64-mingw32-win7(64)-sp1] (sf-win32-5.41-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: Hitachi HDT721010SLA
Serial Number: [No Information Found]
Firmware Version: ST6O
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: [No Information Found]
ATA Standard is: [No Information Found]
Local Time is: Wed Aug 03 02:13:00 2016 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN STATUS cmd.
SMART support is: Enabled

Error SMART Thresholds Read failed: Function not implemented
Smartctl: SMART Read Thresholds failed.

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (14090) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 235) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 098 098 --- Pre-fail Always - 131074
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 --- Pre-fail Offline - 288
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 150 150 --- Pre-fail Always - 417 (Average 347)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 2836
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 --- Pre-fail Always - 5
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 --- Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 128 128 --- Pre-fail Offline - 32
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 096 096 --- Old_age Always - 34022
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 --- Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 2819
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 098 098 --- Old_age Always - 2998
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 --- Old_age Always - 2998
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 136 136 --- Old_age Always - 44 (Min/Max 12/51)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 6
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 2
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 --- Old_age Offline - 2
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 0

Error SMART Error Log Read failed: Function not implemented
Smartctl: SMART Error Log Read Failed
Error SMART Error Self-Test Log Read failed: Function not implemented
Smartctl: SMART Self Test Log Read Failed
Error SMART Read Selective Self-Test Log failed: Function not implemented
Smartctl: SMART Selective Self Test Log Read Failed
---

I think it is telling me that my hard drive is senile.

 

[Nick]

Can't believe your speeds ,Almost as fast as dial up .

Let me check this out .
Do you get anything from the error log ?

 

[zannej]

Can't believe your speeds ,Almost as fast as dial up .

Let me check this out .
Do you get anything from the error log ?

No. It won't create an error log.

I just found it amusing that the Attributes tab had several things that said "old age".

 

[Nick]

Because there old .

Try running CHKDSK .Start - run - paste CHKDSK into prompt.

If that don't work try MS's built in instructions .

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2641432

 

[zannej]

Because there old .

Try running CHKDSK .Start - run - paste CHKDSK into prompt.

If that don't work try MS's built in instructions .

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2641432

I ran disk defragment earlier. Not sure if it helped.

Just tried to run chkdsk and it opened for a split second and then closed immediately.

I've scheduled a disk check via the instructions from the microsoft site though. I'll run it when I reboot later.

 

[Nick]

Yes, it looks like the drive is failing.

Errors listed here are mechanical errors but those MAY cause some data errors.

You surely should back everything up however some data MAY be corrupted.

We can remove the corrupted data after you back up to the new drive .

We're just spinning our wheels in the sand here .

 

[zannej]

Yes, it looks like the drive is failing.

Errors listed here are mechanical errors but those MAY cause some data errors.

You surely should back everything up however some data MAY be corrupted.

We can remove the corrupted data after you back up to the new drive .

We're just spinning our wheels in the sand here .

Yeah, was gonna get my friend to help me get everything migrated over but his favorite aunt just died and he finally broke up with his **** girlfriend today. She's pretty much ruined his life and treats him like garbage so he finally broke it off but he feels terrible about it. I think I'll see if I can make sure to back up stuff to portable drives as well-- just in case.

 

[Nick]

Good Idea .

Acronis true image is a good back up software .

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/acronis_true_image_home_2013.html