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[Ernesto]

There are such things as green cards which permit legal employment. I've never checked into the rules and limitations of the cards, but it is a legal way to work here. I don't know anyone who has an issue with those.
Are green cards a way to begin a legal transition to immigrate to the US? If not, I don't know why it couldn't be.
Most of the tree planers here are Mexican. I don't know if they are legal or not. I assume they are.

Does your state have legislation forbidding hiring without a green card? If not why not? Call your legislators and ask, stop whining about it and be progressive about it. Costs a hell of a lot less than building a stupid fucking wall. This is where the orange man is failing. He don't care, just thinks a wall will work. NO IT WON"T.

 

[highup]

Green cards can take a long time to get. Even a renewal can take a year or more. As far as citizenship goes, I know a Canadian woman who worked here for 10 years to save enough to pay for it.

Everything is hard to get. Becoming a citizen of another country shouldn't be like flipping a light switch.................. That said, 10 years is a long, long time.
It's really hard to be fair without knowing the numbers. There's math involved.
How many people does your country have, and how many people can you realistically add per year? 1% ? 3% ? 5%? I'm saying there are actual numbers on what can happen. You can't just be sympathetic and let everyone with a sad story to come in. I think the US is the world's leader in immigration. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[highup]

Does your state have legislation forbidding hiring without a green card? If not why not? Call your legislators and ask, stop whining about it and be progressive about it. Costs a hell of a lot less than building a stupid fucking wall. This is where the orange man is failing. He don't care, just thinks a wall will work. NO IT WON"T.

A wall is a big sign recognizable to all............ keep out!
Make immigration risks to America to become more well known in other countries.
ie:
We have walls.
We don't accept American Express
Your chances are slim
Take a number
there are 250,000 people ahead of you and bringing children will not help your chances
wait times can be 10 or 15 years due to high traffic

Our legislators do not care one tiny bit. We are a sanctuary state. Kill someone and we will hide you from ICE.
I live in a state who's governmental body parallels Comifornica. Our Governoris is trying to outdo them.
There is a recall notice going around and I hope it sends the bitch a message............. hopefully it will be "you're fired"

 

[Ernesto]

 

[Floorist]

red rum

 

[Ernesto]

Jeeesus, 114 meetings with russians and Trumps election campaign. Things that make you go Hmmm. I smell a rat.

 

[Ernesto]

Our legislators do not care one tiny bit. We are a sanctuary state. Kill someone and we will hide you from ICE.
I live in a state who's governmental body parallels Comifornica. Our Governoris is trying to outdo them.
There is a recall notice going around and I hope it sends the bitch a message............. hopefully it will be "you're fired"

Thats a little extreme, can you document that statement that your state hid and knowingly hid a murderer from prosecution? No? Thats what I thought. lol

 

[Dan]

Does your state have legislation forbidding hiring without a green card? If not why not? Call your legislators and ask, stop whining about it and be progressive about it. Costs a hell of a lot less than building a stupid fucking wall. This is where the orange man is failing. He don't care, just thinks a wall will work. NO IT WON"T.

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9
Form I-9 is used for verifying the identity and employment authorization of individuals hired for employment in the United States. All U.S. employers must ensure proper completion of Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States. This includes citizens and noncitizens. Both employees and employers (or authorized representatives of the employer) must complete the form. On the form, an employee must attest to his or her employment authorization. The employee must also present his or her employer with acceptable documents evidencing identity and employment authorization. The employer must examine the employment eligibility and identity document(s) an employee presents to determine whether the document(s) reasonably appear to be genuine and to relate to the employee and record the document information on the Form I-9. The list of acceptable documents can be found on the last page of the form. Employers must retain Form I-9 for a designated period and make it available for inspection by authorized government officers. NOTE: State agencies may use Form I-9. Also, some agricultural recruiters and referrers for a fee may be required to use Form I-9.

 

[Ernesto]

I think AZ's goes a step farther using e-verify in the language, with fines and penalties like business licenses taken. I-9 is strictly federal. "This state law allows a County Attorney to bring a civil suit to suspend or revoke business licenses if a business intentionally or knowingly hired an “unauthorized alien” worker after December 31, 2007."

https://www.azag.gov/civil-rights/legal-az-workers-act/employers

 

[Ernesto]

 

[highup]

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9
Form I-9 is used for verifying the identity and employment authorization of individuals hired for employment in the United States. All U.S. employers must ensure proper completion of Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States.

........and how about you just don't feel like filling out that form?

 

[highup]

Ern.......... today, CNN, MSNBC and everyone else watched Muller speak and said............... O-GOD, the dems are out of cards.

So late today Pelosi said. "we are not done", we still need to look into Trumps finances and see what Russians he talked to.
Freeking pathetic watching them, shoot foot after foot after foot.
They lost the election and just can't wake up from their bad dream and accept the results.. Have they no clue that nobody on either side cares anymore and want them to try something constructive? ...like a financing a wall, or immigration reform, or watching paint dry?
They're gonna lose even worse in the next general election because of their too tight panties..
Their Muller 1 rocket exploded on the launch pad this morning and they, like Kim Jong Un told their believers it was a miraculous success.

 

[highup]

Wha

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What does Bar have to do with this? Was he instructing Muller to embarrass himself and make a fool out of Nadler and his partners in collusion??

 

[Ernesto]

I suppose you missed the part where Mueller said he can charge the president with obstruction after he leaves office or was not POTUS.

 

[Floorist]

"Democrats tried to get consent to pass two bills that would require campaigns to alert the FBI and Federal Election Commission about foreign offers of assistance, as well as a bill to let the Senate Sergeant at Arms offer voluntary cyber assistance for personal devices and accounts of senators and staff.

But Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) blocked each of the bills. She didn't give reason for her objections, or say if she was objecting on behalf of herself or the Senate GOP caucus. A spokesman didn't immediately respond to a request for comment."

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...yT_8g6wAN2jiw6EPunf6EPdNXUazaW_QUNzuNobDNhygA

 

[Ernesto]

"Democrats tried to get consent to pass two bills that would require campaigns to alert the FBI and Federal Election Commission about foreign offers of assistance, as well as a bill to let the Senate Sergeant at Arms offer voluntary cyber assistance for personal devices and accounts of senators and staff.

But Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) blocked each of the bills. She didn't give reason for her objections, or say if she was objecting on behalf of herself or the Senate GOP caucus. A spokesman didn't immediately respond to a request for comment."

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...yT_8g6wAN2jiw6EPunf6EPdNXUazaW_QUNzuNobDNhygA

I heard McConnell said the reason why they blocked it was because it would help democrats.
How lame of a party can you be to need help from russia to stay in power?

 

[havasu]

FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH MILITARY RANK, THE STRIPES ON THIS MAN'S UNIFORM ARE WORN BY ONLY "ONE MAN" IN THE ENTIRE USAF, THE "CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE". HE IS THE HIGHEST RANKING ENLISTED MAN IN THE USAF. HE IS SAID TO SPEAK TO ONLY TWO PEOPLE, GOD AND THE AIR FORCE CHIEF OF STAFF !!!
THIS MAN PUT HIS NAME AND PICTURE TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. ONE HELL OF A LETTER!

Read This And Get Educated (He leaves no doubt how he feels...rather refreshing really.) by George Roof, Chief Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired)

Interesting Google Search on His Name
copy and paste the link, below
https://www.truthorfiction.com/george-roof-presidents-ive-known/


Because I am a "lifer" in the military, I've seen the impact of a president more than many of you can imagine. I enlisted with LBJ and saw just what a Democrat cluster fuck was all about. I went to Vietnam and saw how we were constantly and incessantly bombarded with micromanagement from Washington that got thousands of military people killed. I sometimes wonder if I'll get to heaven, but if I go to hell, I'm sure I'll still be a few hundred floors above that bastard Robert McNamara, LB Johnson, John Kerry, Jane Fonda, and yes, even the "hero" John McCain.

After Johnson "abdicated" rather than having his ass waxed, I lived through Nixon who was hawkish but allowed the generals (and there WERE a few real generals back then versus now) run the show. Nixon was so out of touch that he never knew North Vietnam was about to surrender when the Paris Accord was presented .

Only God could help us after Gerald Ford was beaten by Jimmy 'Peanuts' Carter who'd been funded by Saudi money. The military was turned into Section 8 and even the White House suffered the austerity

Then the light began to shine and Ronald Reagan swept into the fray. He not only loved the country and the military, they l loved him back. Esprit d'corps was off the scale during his presidency. The Liberals were slowly turning into socialists, however, and about this time all the draft dodgers of the 1960's who'd been given amnesty by Jimmy 'Peanuts' were turning out college graduates with degrees in Socialism. Bush 1 was an enigma from the CIA and though he never did much either way, he NEVER DID MUCH EITHER WAY.

Welcome to Bill Clinton. Clinton spent most of his two terms with his tail wagging the dog and creating the 'Oral' Office, sending a bomber to blow up Quaddafi's tent and killing a goat or two, while allowing the UN to set up the infamous Black Hawk Down situation. He made history by becoming only the second president to be impeached.

I actually felt sorry for Bush 2. He was doomed to infamy from the start. He thought most of America was still the rah rah patriots of WWII when they were 'simply socialists' waiting to feed him to the sharks.

Then there came the Manchurian Candidate Obama with a faked (OK Democrats, let's say "of questionable origin" to assuage your PC brains) birth certificate, who'd gotten a free ride through college under a foreign student exemption, and whose college records and complete life history had been 'sealed.' (We know more about Thomas Jefferson's bastard children than we do about Obama, Michelle , OR their two faked kids.)

From his inaugural address, he slandered America and within days had begun to encourage dissension of the races as well as slandering police who "acted stupidly." That was mild to the crap that would come in doubling the national debt from what had been built by ALL THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS COMBINED, feeding us bullshit about how Muslims built this country, and nationalizing American industries.

Paragraph 9: Fueled by George Soros' money and using the Air Force fleet as his personal charters, he appointed malcontents and traitors into positions of authority. He trashed the Constitution by installing "czars" (interesting he chose a title like that) to bypass Congressional authority. By that time, Congress was completely corrupt on both sides of the aisle. No one had balls to impeach this charlatan Obama.

Mysteriously, the lone outspoken conservative Supreme Court Justice Scalia suddenly dies in his sleep at an Obama pal's hunting lodge and the Supreme Court is evenly split. Finally, Congress shows some balls and rejects Obama's Supreme Court Justice nomination. The Libertards aren't worried because the fix is in. Soros 'has paid' demonstrators to cause turmoil at all the Republican gatherings.' Obama concedes that illegal aliens should vote, as they won't be prosecuted, and Soros-manufactured voting machines are caught switching votes in certain precincts. Hillary has cheated her way to the nomination and her lies are completely ignored by the brainwashed minions of sycophants who follow her.

But a shocking thing happened on the way to the forum.

Middle America had had enough, and although the pollsters and the pipers tried to convince middle America not even to bother to vote, they were fed up with the denizens of the swamp. It was time. Florida was designated a "swing" state ignoring that all those old retirees living in St. Petersburg, and the fed up Cuban Americans of Miami, weren't interested in their platform. Ohio and Pennsylvania, where coal production was blacklisted and where Obama had ridiculed them for "clinging to their Bibles and their guns," lay awaiting this supposed "landslide" Hillary vote,.... and creamed it.

The Socialist world of the Democratic Party disintegrated. An American who expressed unbridled love of country and respect for police, firemen, and military steamrolled across the heartland and the liberals realized their scheme was trashed. A CONSTITUTIONALIST would be nominated to the Supreme Court and if the old hag Ginsburg who'd claimed to retire if Trump were elected would actually retire and leave, the Supreme Court would have a massive majority of CONSTITUTIONALISTS for the next 40-50 years.

Now, the same party who'd ridiculed Trump on his comments about the election being rigged, started screaming that the election 'was' rigged. They even advocated having the election repeated. They created mobs that burned and pillaged, stopped traffic, threatened murder, battery and rape of Trump supporters, and became the anarchists that the socialist dream thrives upon. They run like castrated pigs for safe zones and use diaper pins as their national symbol.

This is exactly what happens when political correctness takes over and participation trophies are awarded to everyone. They can't conceive how disgusting and subservient they have become.

Donald Trump may NOT be the best person for the job, but he's such a welcome respite from the candy-assed wimps who've been running the swamp that it's refreshing to see. At the very least, Donald Trump derailed the Socialist train and bought us precious time. If he only does half of what he's promised, we'll still be legions ahead of where Obama has dragged us. Already, countries who held us in contempt are lining up to be found in the favor of America. Donald Trump has done more in his short time in the public eye and he prevented Hillary Clinton from becoming president!

So for you liberal lurkers and you half-assed fence-sitters, Tough shit! You had your big hurray and now your party is over. For you staunch Republicans in office, don't gloat so much yourselves. You've been put on notice by the American people that we're fed up with ALL YOU BASTARDS and if you don't start putting America first, you do so at your own peril. You might want to buy a copy of George McGovern's autobiography and see how shocking and humbling it can be for a professional politician to have to try to find legitimate work once he falls from grace.

This election was pure, unadulterated AMERICAN!!! Hillary was beaten and AMERICA WON THE ELECTION. You can claim he's not "your president" all you want, but unless you 'forfeit' your American citizenship, .....

YES, HE IS YOUR PRESIDENT!!!

Go cry a river some place they need water.

 

[Ernesto]

Bullshit.

 

[Ernesto]

Just so we’re ALL clear:

No Obama investigations.
No Obama Special Counsel investigations.
No Obama administration indictments.

Hillary Clinton Benghazi Investigation
4 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation
2 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Trump-Russia Investigation
15 months
34 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)
3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
5 GUILTY pleas (and counting)
4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
Indicted: Roger Stone
Indicted: Paul Manafort
Indicted: Rick Gates
Indicted: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: Michael Flynn
Indicted: Michael Cohen
Indicted: Richard Pinedo
Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
Indicted: Sergey Polozov
Indicted: Maria Bovda
Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
Indicted: Internet Research Agency
Indicted: Concord Management
Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
Bank fraud (8 counts)
Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Making false statements (6 counts)
Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
False FARA statements (2 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)Over 1000 former Federal prosecutors say, based on the evidence in the Mueller report, they would indict Trump and he’d be facing prison time.

 

[highup]

Well spoken Hav. Hillary could have been run through the same routine Trump has be run through............. but they didn't want to ruin her chances for winning the election. Being the sourpussi they are, what they are doing is the next best thing. (they think it is)