Discussing politics and religion

[Ernesto]

Here is the problem with having a businessman/television/real estate guy as president. Money influences policy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html

 

[highup]

I've been watching snippets of the funeral. GWB broke down and cried at the end. It's hard not to feel for him now. Hillary wouldn't even look at Trump & Carter was giving him stink eye, but he behaved himself and even patted GW on the back at one point.

The Snopes thing doesn't disprove that Frank Trump was a member of the KKK, just that the news article didn't confirm it, but I will concede that there is not proof in that particular article for it. But DJT has made statements that indicate his biases. Talking about being genetically superior and so forth. The language he uses to describe minorities and people who aren't white speaks volumes. It's not even just the language, it's his attitude. Claiming he wants to give them jobs and doing something nice for a handful of minorities does not mean he isn't racist. He's a con man and knows how to play people. He claimed to be a friend of the LGBT but he tried to discriminate against them. He claims to support women's rights but he tries to silence women & has no respect for women. He also constantly contradicts himself.

Fox is not a reliable source. They often have mistakes, omissions, or outright lies. They may even be mistaken about the people being gang members. Hell, ICE arrested, detained, and tried to deport a US citizen (they claimed he was from Jamaica) so ICE is not all that trustworthy these days. It really went to crap after the reorganization.

How many people were somewhat racist in the 20's 30' and 40's? That was then, this is now.
It's not Fox, it's all of em. The BBC is often a better source. If I see something fishy on Fox or any other, I google the topic for different points of view or versions of a story.
Do you think CNN is reliable source of anything? .........other than the correct date and time?

 

[highup]

Here is the problem with having a businessman/television/real estate guy as president. Money influences policy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html

You expect them to buy rooms at Motel 6?

. you mean a Trump branded hotel?
A lobbyist who helped plan the trips told the Post that the Trump-branded property was chosen solely because it offered a discount off its room rates and had space available. Other hotels were booked when a trip was organized at short notice.

 

[Ernesto]

Discrimination is his MO. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

 

[Nick]

 

[zannej]

It's one thing to be racist, it's another to be in a racist hate group. CNN is not that accurate and I've said that before. I still remember the Daily Show making fun of it for not fact-checking their stories but then fact-checking an SNL routine. IIRC, they had one of their "correspondents" come on and say "CNN f***s goats"
But, in terms of reliable news coverage, Fox is on the lower end of the spectrum for accuracy. Their opinion stuff like Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Fox & Friends, etc are all absolute garbage.

That said, Trump isn't calling Fox "Fake News" or inciting violence against them, but he's giving nutjobs ideas about CNN and news agencies he's insulted. He ranted about fake news and enemy of the people again last night and a bomb threat was called in to CNN. I'm sure they love the publicity, but he needs to be careful about what he says-- just as those Democratic politicians should be careful about what they say.

Trump has been violating the emoluments clause left and right. Looks like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and started rage-tweeting. He's already presumed the Mueller report will incriminate him and is trying to get in a preemptive strike.

 

[Nick]

 

[Floorist]

 

[Nick]

 

[zannej]

I love how he said his lawyers prepared a 78 page rebuttal for Mueller's report and the report hadn't even been released. Since he tends to pull #s out of his keester, I think there is one page with "NO COLUSION" in crayon.

 

[highup]

They can rebut the legality of the investigation.
On a similar note, everyone that hates Trump knows for certain that he colluded with the Russians even tho that Mueller report isn't out. That's even more funny. Guilty until proven innocent.

 

[zannej]

Trump himself believes in guilty until proven innocent. And even after someone is proven not guilty he keeps pushing to get them arrested (I'm not talking about Hillary and her buttery mails here-- she was guilty as f*** of that)
There is significant evidence of conspiracy, RICO, campaign finance violation, obstruction, and other crimes. The indictments & guilty charges of numerous co-conspirators shows that.
If Trump was innocent and had done nothing wrong, he would not have so much reason to fear the investigation or to continually lie about his involvement with various people and groups. He keeps flipflopping on his story. At one point his camp admitted there was "collusion" but that it wasn't a crime. Now it's back to "there was no collusion". But he's not on the hook for collusion, it's conspiracy.
Today it looks like his autocorrect is failing him on the "smocking gun" thing.

Also, I was wrong, it was 87 pages not 78. LOL. Looks like Maria Butina is cutting a deal which is going to make things even worse for him.

I forgot to appreciate the use of Radar in a meme. Speaking of signing, I kinda felt bad for Trump when he goofed and signed in the wrong spot on the new NAFTA thing and then nervously asked which one mattered. That had to be embarrassing.

 

[Floorist]

What is a "smocking" gun?
Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




“Democrats can’t find a Smocking Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey’s testimony. No Smocking Gun...No Collusion.” @FoxNews That’s because there was NO COLLUSION. So now the Dems go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution,...


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5:46 AM - Dec 10, 2018

 

[highup]

What is a "smocking" gun?
Donald J. Trump

✔ @realDonaldTrump




“Democrats can’t find a Smocking Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey’s testimony. No Smocking Gun...No Collusion.” @FoxNews That’s because there was NO COLLUSION. So now the Dems go to a simple private transaction, wrongly call it a campaign contribution,...


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5:46 AM - Dec 10, 2018

He types jus like I do. Maybe I'm related to to the idiot.

 

[highup]

Trump himself believes in guilty until proven innocent. And even after someone is proven not guilty he keeps pushing to get them arrested (I'm not talking about Hillary and her buttery mails here-- she was guilty as f*** of that)
There is significant evidence of conspiracy, RICO, campaign finance violation, obstruction, and other crimes. The indictments & guilty charges of numerous co-conspirators shows that.
If Trump was innocent and had done nothing wrong, he would not have so much reason to fear the investigation or to continually lie about his involvement with various people and groups. He keeps flipflopping on his story. At one point his camp admitted there was "collusion" but that it wasn't a crime. Now it's back to "there was no collusion". But he's not on the hook for collusion, it's conspiracy.
Today it looks like his autocorrect is failing him on the "smocking gun" thing.

Also, I was wrong, it was 87 pages not 78. LOL. Looks like Maria Butina is cutting a deal which is going to make things even worse for him.

I forgot to appreciate the use of Radar in a meme. Speaking of signing, I kinda felt bad for Trump when he goofed and signed in the wrong spot on the new NAFTA thing and then nervously asked which one mattered. That had to be embarrassing.

.......just sayin', some people know the facts before Mullers report is finished
..............I don't even know. How come some people do before the verdict is in?

.......on a side note, you probably don't like that lovable teddy bear, Rush either. For the past 30+ years he's been the greatest thing to hit the airwaves since the invention of sliced bread. ....OK, Hawaiian pizza.
His tongue-in-cheek has po'd liberals for decades................ so funny how they fall for it hook line and sinker .............................time after time after time after time.
My brains in a blender it's hard to remember it's ....Jello
Spatula City.
Ross Perot singing that old hit "The Funny Farm"
Rush makes SNL writers look like preschoolers. Forget his political stance and enjoy what he does. He's funny as all getout. I'm not even a conservative.

 

[Ernesto]

@realDonaldTrump vs the fakeDonaldTrump. Can't tell the difference. hehe
I keep showing the evidence of collusion High. It's on youtube. Him asking Russia to hack for emails. If Obama did that they would have been all over it for being a traitor, drawn n quartered.

 

[highup]

Like I just said, Mueller's report hasn't been completed and turned in, yet everyone knows what's in it.

 

[Ernesto]

Like I just said, Mueller's report hasn't been completed and turned in, yet everyone knows what's in it.

It's live video during his campaign High, might also be in Mueller's report. Don't need no stinkin report to derive a conclusion for that one.

 

[Nick]

 

[Nick]