Discussing politics and religion

[highup]

I dont think you have the slightest idea what it means to cite credible sources. CNN is not credible.

I do not "defend pedophiles." Not all evidence can be admitted into a court of law:
exclusionary rule
I said nothing whatsoever about CNN and no, I've not looked at Hunter Biden's laptop porn. Also, I never heard of Garret Zeiglar. Everywhere you look you see PARTISAN enemies.........then you sling malicious personal insults. You are dead to me. Please dont waste my time responding.

Have to agree. We've been allowed by the powers that be to have these "discussions"
Let's not abuse it and ruin it.
Hey, everyone here except for ME is wrong...
...but I'll try to explain why I'm right with careful wording.
Keep it lighthearted with disagreements.

 

[Dan]

 

[havasu]

 

[highup]

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Very fair comparison. ....and some don't understand the outrage.

 

[MSLI]

So I’m a little confused by the havasu shared chart …. And You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a little slow from all the Safety Solvent

But here goes anyway…… Why would you want to compare BLM PLIGHT with political plight. I understand the common denominator of protesting gone wild, unlike Spring Break gone wild BUT Really ! The motivation behind each IMHO needs to be considered.

Agree ? Disagree ? Or set me straight on this manufactured outrage, thx !

 

[Floorist]

So I’m a little confused by the havasu shared chart …. And You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a little slow from all the Safety Solvent

But here goes anyway…… Why would you want to compare BLM PLIGHT with political plight. I understand the common denominator of protesting gone wild, unlike Spring Break gone wild BUT Really ! The motivation behind each IMHO needs to be considered.

Agree ? Disagree ? Or set me straight on this manufactured outrage, thx !

BLM was a political movement promoted by the Democrat party.

 

[highup]

So I’m a little confused by the havasu shared chart …. And You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a little slow from all the Safety Solvent

But here goes anyway…… Why would you want to compare BLM PLIGHT with political plight. I understand the common denominator of protesting gone wild, unlike Spring Break gone wild BUT Really ! The motivation behind each IMHO needs to be considered.

Agree ? Disagree ? Or set me straight on this manufactured outrage, thx !

The chart simply shows political bias. Both however were protests turned violent.
Conservatives go to jail, but liberal protesters can burn and loot with absolutely no consequences. They were even allowed to take over a couple of city blocks for weeks, ruining business for people in the downtown area. Those protests cause many, many hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, thousands of police officers were hurt...... Hardly an arrest anywhere. St John's church nursery was set on fire in the basement during a few days of rioting..... oops, I meant "peacefully protests"
We all know there was thousands of hours of video, but the powers that be never tried to hunt down one single "protester"
Two sets of justice, separated by political affiliation.

 

[highup]

I did not, but I’ll try, thanks for posting it.

This truth is true
We are in the middle of dueling narratives and finger pointing that clouds the TRUTH over. Cutting through this narrative is next to impossible SO What could we do instead ?

Lets Start embracing ambiguity and that flexibility could be the start in us to be able to give the opposing viewpoint the power of UNDERSTANDING and this understanding awareness opens the eyes, that none of us , individually or organizations ever absolutely get it 100 % right all of the
time.

I'll give you one more to watch.
...not the entire show, because it's an hour and 40 minutes.
This is a 23 year capital police officer who rose up through the ranks. He was a personal security officer for different members of Congress and he was a commander on scene on Jan 6th. He became a whistle blower after discovering that known intelligence of plans to breach the capitol and even kill members of Congress were NOT passed on to the capitol police. Intelligence of these plans were known in December.
At the 5:40 minute mark, there's a brief chat about this officers work, then the info I briefly touched on.At least check out from 5:40 to the 12:00 minute point. These same things were told to Congress by the capital police chief.
People ought to be put in jail over this.....
January 6th could have EASILY been prevented had intelligence been passed on and precautions taken. Obviously intentional.


Edit:
I've continued listening to this video and it's unbelievable what was allowed to happen.
300 or less capitol on duty with 20,000 angry protesters. Just 400 officers total were assigned for 3 shifts that day.

 

[highup]

BLM was a political movement promoted by the Democrat party.

I thought the "good" safety solvent was gone and we're left with that icky citrus junk.
I'll pay top dollar for your stash..... I'm in withdrawal.

 

[Floorist]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...an-on-high-capacity-gun-magazines/ar-AA1h7M7Q

 

[highup]

I've just begun going through this one.
Redirect Notice a long one.
It's legit, it's just a PDF file.

 

[MSLI]

Agree ? Disagree ? Or set me straight on this manufactured outrage, thx !

Ok, last nights adult beverage set me straight.

So freedom of the press has manufactured the encouragement for justice and equality, even though it got out of control in the BLM protests. While on the other side they exposed the outrage for injustice and inequality as that also got out of control. I get it

what a provocative marketing campaign ( good or bad ) I now understand the outrage over this manufactured outrage felt. …… It’s like a schoolyard fight against your friend, TWO AGAINST ONE, not very fair……Is this the underdog effect you are speaking about Daris ?

Ok ! what do we do with that knowledge ? How can we direct against that full court press of provocation ? Will blame , reactivity and name calling win the day ?
( space for self reflection before reading on )



One option could be to prudently break it down to the raw material, rather than reacting inward from a place of resentment over the tactics used. I’ll get back to that in a few, but first this. when we learn the tools that forecast a coming resentment storm ( A Brewing ! ) we could simply open the tool box and grab a Respectful hammer and nail down a white Elephant truth, “ Respect starts at home and finishes at home “ …..Internal Respect guides personal and or organizational thoughts and actions as it relates to resentment. Managing resentment is the responsibility of the home owner, not the guest. THE BUCK STOPS HERE as they say. If I bash you for bashing me, I just broke my responsibility

Sorry for that life lesson but if we want to see improvement in the world, the improvements must start with each and everyone of us by learning the dynamics about anger. It can take us over by giving our power away to others….by giving our responsibility away to others. Do stay in responsibility, rather than react from provocateurs.

Back on the raw material of injustice, with new eyes

Ask yourself, is injustice and inequality happening and felt by one group more than the other ? …… Let’s strengthen our hearts and minds with new tools and Give them understanding for their tactics, because chances are they are reacting resentfully too.

Learn more at www.thepeacecenter.org
And improve !

 

[Floorist]

 

[MSLI]

Kevin’s alleged quote : Can I take hormones and change my gender? Of course ! You know what’s best. …. Hey Kevin ! Sarcasm can be a form of anger, and not a productive method for directing behaviors that one disagrees with. Notice I spoke candidly about a behavior I do not agree with without speaking sarcastically down upon, as we sometimes tend to do when we go all judgmental. Individual responsibility asks us to have some restraint, give it some consideration.

 

[Incognito]

BLM was a political movement promoted by the Democrat party.

INTERNATIONAL communism is where this movement stems from. Yes, there's Democrats and CERTAINLY the Democrat Party pushing this agenda. But I pretty much guarantee you it's less than 50% of actual voters who can get behind the specific policies or political activistism of BLM.

 

[MSLI]

Two sets of justice, separated by political affiliation.

Exactly ! Sorry to turn those words around on a dime, but when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. ( thanks Dr. Wayne Dyer for that insight) Not to say a hall pass was
justified for any out of control protesters, BUT one, with an open mind and an empathetic heart could apply understanding towards those protesters, who’s frustration got the better of them. Especially when the freedom of speech PRESS continually magnify our differences, rather than apply language of much needed first aid. Maybe a strike is in order by tuning off from the big corporate media channels and tune into public broadcasting as a better choice. Money and ratings unfortunately trump over our safety

 

[Floorist]

 

[MSLI]

My daughter was into him ( Jeff Dunham. ) and we saw his show in Philly appx. 17 years ago. Great show ! …. Joe does like his character Walter ( his famous saying is ‘ dumb ass ‘ ) I wonder who he’s talking about ?

 

[highup]

Have you seen his car collection?

 

[Floorist]