Discussing politics and religion

[Ernesto]

I'm surprised you and Ernesto read Fox.

I read and watch all sides High. I like to hear the other side of the story. You and Hav should try it some time.

 

[Ernesto]

Just so you know, I vote for the Libertarian

 

[havasu]

You spelled Librarian incorrectly Ern!

 

[Nick]

LOL !

 

[highup]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...t-social-security-medicare/ar-BBOtGyE?ocid=sf

"You have got to generate economic growth because growth generates revenue,” Rubio said at a Politico conference late last year. "But you also have to bring spending under control. And not discretionary spending. That isn’t the driver of our debt. The driver of our debt is the structure of Social Security and Medicare for future beneficiaries."

“We're going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit,” Speaker Ryan said on a conservative radio program around the same time."

I don't disagree with that at all. Democrats do the usual hype about stealing food from grandma and grandpa. That's not what it's about.
Scare tactics like usual. Amazed anyone falls for that kinda crap. Republicans have grandmas and grandpas too.......... and children.

 

[highup]

Dang, now I want to get a DNA test. I know I'm entitled to something.

 

[Nick]

You don't give Millionaires Millions in tax cuts that they don't want .. Republicans don't care about their grandma and grandpa..

 

[Nick]

 

[highup]

You don't give Millionaires Millions in tax cuts that they don't want .. Republicans don't care about their grandma and grandpa..

Don't forget the billionaires I sure wish I could have worked on Paul Allen's yacht...... it took one million man hours to construct.. Doncha just hate it when millionaires and billionaires spend all that money employing people instead of handing it to the government. I think he had 3 yachts, helicopters, planes. The government should have reverted back to the 90% tax rate of days gone by so he wasn't burdened with employing people.

 

[highup]

Trying to understand sompin'.. Would it be more fair if they paid 100% of the taxes?
I love the rich, they buy stuff. People are employed making stuff.
...makes the world go round.
https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/
The data demonstrates that the U.S. individual income tax continues to be very progressive, borne mainly by the highest income earners.

• In 2014, 139.6 million taxpayers reported earning $9.71 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.37 trillion in individual income taxes.
• The share of income earned by the top 1 percent of taxpayers rose to 20.6 percent in 2014. Their share of federal individual income taxes also rose, to 39.5 percent.
• In 2014, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.3 percent of all individual income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.7 percent.
• The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (39.5 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.1 percent).
• The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 27.1 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.5 percent).

 

[Ernesto]

Trying to understand sompin'.. Would it be more fair if they paid 100% of the taxes?
I love the rich, they buy stuff. People are employed making stuff.

Middle class buy more stuff, the 1% can't buy enough stuff to run manufacturing.

 

[highup]

We wouldn't want to count money they give away to cancer, ebola, hiv, heart research and a zillion other causes. Can you imagine if they gave all this money to the government. Wouldn't do a bit of good. Gone in 60 seconds comes to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_Pledge

https://www.fastcompany.com/40579377/14-more-billionaires-sign-the-giving-pledge

 

[highup]

Middle class buy more stuff, the 1% can't buy enough stuff to run manufacturing.

Yachts, cars and homes (heating systems, appliances, plumbing, landscaping)..................... that ain't stuff. It's stuff X1000

 

[Floorist]

Trump was running the corporation, makes him responsible to make sure the workers get paid. Of course he has filed bankruptcy numerous times to avoid paying his bills,

 

[Floorist]

Want to reduce the cost of Medicare?

"Using data on all prescriptions filled by Medicare Part D enrollees from 2010 to 2013, we found that the use of prescription drugs for which marijuana could serve as a clinical alternative fell significantly, once a medical marijuana law was implemented. National overall reductions in Medicare program and enrollee spending when states implemented medical marijuana laws were estimated to be $165.2 million per year in 2013. The availability of medical marijuana has a significant effect on prescribing patterns and spending in Medicare Part D."

 

[Nick]

 

[havasu]

Our bums can still get free Obama phones with free wifi. How is this even possible?

 

[Floorist]

Our bums can still get free Obama phones with free wifi. How is this even possible?

Just thought you might like to know the truth.

The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration.

So you should call it the "Reaganphone".

 

[Nick]

Our bums can still get free Obama phones with free wifi. How is this even possible?

If you find out let me know Hav ..

 

[highup]

The phones are just another thing to complain about. The phones are used or out of popularity type phones nobody wants. Probably costs the average Joe a penny or two per month on their phone bill.
Imagine being homeless with no connection to anyone. That free phone might be your only hope of ever being employed.