Discussing politics and religion

[Nick]

 

[Ernesto]

That would be interesting Rusty. It would make campaigns boring.
People need to be reminded of political mistakes that an opponent made during their time in office. Be it projects they created or approved or wasteful practices........ not how many parties they went to in college nor how many girlfriends they had or that time they helped carry the principal's Volkswagen Bug up the steps of the high school auditorium.

Problem being is that many votes are misrepresented by both parties. Major reason is that many times a bill is opposed because some douche tried attach in some pork to it and congressmen vote no on it. They don't explain that in the hate ads. They only want you to hear what they want you to hear.
Plus, and just saw an ad today where they inserted some audio asking a politician a question and then inserted a clip from some other video where it made him look bad. That question was never asked of the guy in the meeting.

 

[Ernesto]

He'd spend 20 billion dollars building bridges and putting up welcome signs in 15 languages.

Fact, Obama had more immigrant arrests than his predecessor. And he deported more. If you listen to the lies Trump puts out day after day soon you end up believing them like most ignorant republicans do.

 

[Nick]

 

[Ernesto]

Pre-existing conditions is a big deal. The GOP including Martha McSally who is running for John McCains senate seat outright lies about her voting down to eliminate pre-existing conditions on health care.
Martha voted to eliminate pre-existing conditions.
These people are slaves to the healthcare corporations .
If your republican and have a pre-existing condition y'all better think twice about your vote.
That includes all your relatives and immediate family and friends.
The end effect will be your going to go bankrupt and just end up dying when they deny you coverage for any.....any health issue you had prior to the new legislation .

 

[Floorist]

Josh Hawley, in Missouri, claims he want to keep pre-existing covered, but he authored the lawsuit to do away with it.

 

[highup]

Fact, Obama had more immigrant arrests than his predecessor. And he deported more. If you listen to the lies Trump puts out day after day soon you end up believing them like most ignorant republicans do.

You can only deport more if you let them in in the first place. That's a no brainer.

 

[highup]

Problem being is that many votes are misrepresented by both parties. Major reason is that many times a bill is opposed because some douche tried attach in some pork to it and congressmen vote no on it. They don't explain that in the hate ads. They only want you to hear what they want you to hear.
Plus, and just saw an ad today where they inserted some audio asking a politician a question and then inserted a clip from some other video where it made him look bad. That question was never asked of the guy in the meeting.

You got that nailed. Oregon is a blue, blue state. Our Republican challenger is both for and against a woman's right to chose.
He voted against a health care issue, probably because he hates women, children and the elderly....... you know the game.
I'd like to know what he really voted against. Like you said, it probably had some other bill added or the bill he voted against was flawed......... hard to tell from the political ads what really occurred.

 

[Nick]

 

[Nick]

 

[Ernesto]

You can only deport more if you let them in in the first place. That's a no brainer.

Nobody is letting anyone in. Obama bumped up monies for border security. Actually arrests are going up right now vs end of Obama.
So who's letting more in.

I keep saying, if we put 1/1,000,000 of the people in Mexico to work like we do China we wouldn't have this problem with South American immigration.
And if you followed the real news, we can't get enough people to harvest our crops

 

[Nick]

Not only the farmers need them , But big Business is crying for them ..

 

[Nick]

 

[Floorist]

Not only the farmers need them , But big Business is crying for them ..

One of the local turkey plants is having trouble staying open. They offer the best wages and benefits in the area, but Americans won't work there because you get dirty. They have a shortage of immigrants because of the crackdown. So they have gone to one shift. Many of the Mexican workers have been there for years.

 

[Nick]

My Nepthue once worked for Purdue for a week.. I don't eat Chicken anymore ..

 

[Floorist]

My Nepthue once worked for Purdue for a week.. I don't eat Chicken anymore ..

My daughter worked for Butterball for about 4 years. She is the one who said that most other Americans would stay but a week or two.

 

[highup]

There's nothing wrong with people that work here that have green cards. Jobs that Americans won't do are a good reason for seasonal workers. It helps us and it helps them. It needs to be a fair wage tho........... Not $3 or $4 and hour either. If they work here they need to get paid the same as a US citizen would make doing the same labor, because some Americans will do that work.
I don't like it when "undocumented" (ILLEGAL) people work in construction or industrial trades. Employers say they work faster and work cheaper. Wellll..........., how about raising wages high enough to attract legal employees?
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[highup]

Nobody is letting anyone in. Obama bumped up monies for border security. Actually arrests are going up right now vs end of Obama.
So who's letting more in.

I keep saying, if we put 1/1,000,000 of the people in Mexico to work like we do China we wouldn't have this problem with South American immigration.
And if you followed the real news, we can't get enough people to harvest our crops

I don't see any shortages or price hikes.
The issue is legal vs illegal. There is a system in place to legally harvest crops, right?

 

[Ernesto]

Up 30% in 2018, over 400,000 highup. Explain please.

https://tucson.com/news/local/nearl...550aabf.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-2

 

[Nick]

Food and Gas has been going up here for weeks ..