Discussing politics and religion

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Finally ...should have been capped at the knees during her boyfriend trial.

 

[MSLI]

Well, you of all people can remember that far back. I can't remember what I did Tuesday.

Daris, is the ‘ Old ‘ joke getting old ?

Hey ! All the good thoughts come as I’m getting ready to work.

If Mother Nature does what ever she wants and we are a form of that nature, I guess that extends to us too ….. So !
( buttons ) what should ! I mean could that mean ? ….. It may mean that we could put our energy into responding to climate and humanistic challenges rather than banging our heads against a wall trying to change anyone or anything. And that brings us back to the most important word ever. Does anyone know what that word is ?

 

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.. It may mean that we could put our energy into responding to climate and humanistic challenges rather than banging our heads against a wall trying to change anyone or anything

Ok ! Let’s do a real world example. Four days ago I ran into the apartment painter.
Real nice guy and by all accounts, a good working relationship. Anywho, I mentioned that I was channeling out the perimeter of carpet in unit 212, because it’s a 1/4” thicker than the new carpet and please paint closer to the bottom of baseboard than usual. By all accounts, he understood and seemed very compliant, even though I did not insist on hearing him say “ Yes “….. after all I’m not his boss or God almighty …… Well ! I show up today, ready to go and this is what I see ! …. That section is the worst, but he clearly decided to do ‘ His Will ‘ over my request ……. Stay tuned for the conclusion ‘ Of How The World Gets Floored ‘

 

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[MSLI]

Thanks for sharing that havasu
They had all kinds of Margarine commercials back then. Fabio’s line was
“ I can’t believe it’s not butter, in
a spray “

 

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Honestly, I would never have guessed that one. ...I would however, still be guessing.

 

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Interesting. Not often Jim is this serious.

 

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A Happy New Year would be addressing this.

 

[Floorist]

Thanks Rusty for being you, as it was neglectful and sloppy for her to be so frustratingly human on purpose. How dare she ? ? or shall I say, how dare we ? ?

Does that assessment sound Accurate ? Or maybe it’s perhaps left over frustration from Kamala and now Rusty ( Both Judged and Judger, playing with each other ) competing against each other to prove Patriotism by attacking the content of the competitors character ? ….. I don’t blame you,
( everyone) because we like taking the bait, then we decide to fight fire with fire. Hey ! It’s a strategy that works in nature, so why not ? …..

Well ! what about that word ‘ United ‘ ?
or does “ To The Flag “ symbolize something else ? ….. I’m not expecting anyone to contemplate and give an answer, but consider this, if you want ?
Do we worship fire more than the Dove ? Do we want lessons learned to burn baby burn ? ….. Or could we discern, it’s time to Unite ……Not by judging others but by holding ourselves to a higher standard that serves all ! !
United is not without controversy, but perhaps it need not be with Fire

You don't think that a public official should know the pledge? Sad.

 

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You don't think that a public official should know the pledge? Sad.

I agree ! Yes ! They should or could be held to a higher standard….. All I’m saying ( Abstractly) is when we decide to judge someone, maybe we could be held to a higher standard too

 

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Is it wrong for me to think she is a despicable person since she was promoted by how many she slept with rather than the brain God gave her?

How many she ! Or how many he ! Slept with is the personal business of the sleepers and GOD …. Also have we ever considered that some humans have a bigger Libido than others ? Just because they work and sometimes play with the people around them isn’t fact that She or His career path was improved. But ! I understand the human temptation to make causes have effects.

When we live in the space
of right and wrong, we limit ourselves to live in different expressions of life. ( isn’t that word in our constitution ) But I understand the temptation in order to feel like there is order in our world…... So no, I don’t believe it’s wrong to judge her as a despicable person, but I do believe IMHO
that it’s not wise to limit ourselves rigidly.
Especially since our founding fathers asked of us to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States ( not divided ) But please forgive me for also applying a form of ‘ Right and Wrong’ logic to make this point.

 

[Floorist]

A two-megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that required 300 tons or iron ore & 170 tons of coking coal, all mined, transported & produced by hydrocarbons. A windmill could spin UNTIL IT FALLS APART & NEVER generate as much energy as was invested in building it.

 

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Is Zuckerberg being a good conformist so that he won't get investigated for election tampering in the past? Or is he sincerely regretful for banning Trump and many other conservative voices? It's not like the various social media giants might have conspired to stop him from communicating........ and that by silencing him, it might prevent him from winning the election against Biden.
Mark knows that Trump's memory is really, really, really good.
Regardless, what a breath of fresh air. Is YouTube next? Hell, they demonetize channels if they are climate change deniers. They won't even give a reason to channels when they acknowledge why they were demonetized. They just give me a form letter stating "broke site guidelines" or something vague like that.
The dictator of Canada is stepping down.
Ford, Walmart, John Deere, Harley Davidson, Coors, Jack Daniels, Lowes, Caterpillar and even major colleges have eliminated DEI..... In a week and a half, the military and federal government will throw dei in the wood chipper. Every state in the US moved more red. Sounds like Europeans are fed up too.
Light at the end of the tunnel is neon, blinking and says:
"Approaching Normal"

 

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Is Zuckerberg being a good conformist so that he won't get investigated for election tampering in the past? Or is he sincerely regretful for banning Trump and many other conservative voices? It's not like the various social media giants might have conspired to stop him from communicating........ and that by silencing him, it might prevent him from winning the election against Biden.
Mark knows that Trump's memory is really, really, really good.
Regardless, what a breath of fresh air. Is YouTube next? Hell, they demonetize channels if they are climate change deniers. They won't even give a reason to channels when they acknowledge why they were demonetized. They just give me a form letter stating "broke site guidelines" or something vague like that.
The dictator of Canada is stepping down.
Ford, Walmart, John Deere, Harley Davidson, Coors, Jack Daniels, Lowes, Caterpillar and even major colleges have eliminated DEI..... In a week and a half, the military and federal government will throw dei in the wood chipper. Every state in the US moved more red. Sounds like Europeans are fed up too.
Light at the end of the tunnel is neon, blinking and says:
"Approaching Normal"

The UK is going farther left.

 

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The UK is going farther left.

Do we want all Left, all Right, or balance?

The founding fathers constructed division on purpose, knowing it was problematic. WHY ?

Let’s identify that “ why “ then understand it, accept it, and appreciate it. Now ! that should or could activate us to care enough, to trust the process enough, to then decide on taking the responsibility serious enough to be respectful along the way as we work the founding fathers process.

If we apply that logic, we should or could be able to understand this next ‘ counter intuitive statement ‘ …..Unity happens through respectful division and respectful division keeps us balanced.

 

[MSLI]

Is Zuckerberg being a good conformist so that he won't get investigated for election tampering in the past? Or is he sincerely regretful for banning Trump and many other conservative voices?

I hate to bring up old experiences, but we kinda already went through all this on a local level with TFP and our own Mark Z. named Jimbo….. The owners / creators of this new ‘ Social Media ‘ are learning as it grows and develops. Rules are made, broken, enforced, not enforced, and ever evolving towards improving.

My take / understanding is that both men were sincerely human and susceptible to mistakes.

 

[highup]

Do we want all Left, all Right, or balance?

The founding fathers constructed division on purpose, knowing it was problematic. WHY ?

Let’s identify that “ why “ then understand it, accept it, and appreciate it. Now ! that should or could activate us to care enough, to trust the process enough, to then decide on taking the responsibility serious enough to be respectful along the way as we work the founding fathers process.

If we apply that logic, we should or could be able to understand this next ‘ counter intuitive statement ‘ …..Unity happens through respectful division and respectful division keeps us balanced.

We've gone extreme left woke, we're going back to center. How much farther left could we have gone? I'm a center type tilted slightly right. The far right is as nutty as far left.
Our constitution and decades of pride in our country and "traditional" family values is the center point.

The government has been telling us what light bulbs to use, when we will drive electric cars, when we will have X% wind, solar and unicorn powered homes. They give us mandates on hiring. More and more they have used censorship as a weapon and try to prevent us from owning weapons.
Their cohabitation with social media is disgusting....... as in American as it gets. Elon exposed this BS and it's all unraveling. Without him exposing all that...... Where would this have ended?
Aren't WE supposed to vote on that stuff?
We're heading back to normal ...to center.

Regan said it best.

 

[Floorist]

Do we want all Left, all Right, or balance?

The founding fathers constructed division on purpose, knowing it was problematic. WHY ?

Let’s identify that “ why “ then understand it, accept it, and appreciate it. Now ! that should or could activate us to care enough, to trust the process enough, to then decide on taking the responsibility serious enough to be respectful along the way as we work the founding fathers process.

If we apply that logic, we should or could be able to understand this next ‘ counter intuitive statement ‘ …..Unity happens through respectful division and respectful division keeps us balanced.

In the UK a man who raped a young girl several times was sentenced to counseling only. (standard sentence now). And people who criticize the government on Facebook go to prison. They have been threatening to arrest Americans who criticized the UK government.

 

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I hate to bring up old experiences, but we kinda already went through all this on a local level with TFP and our own Mark Z. named Jimbo….. The owners / creators of this new ‘ Social Media ‘ are learning as it grows and develops. Rules are made, broken, enforced, not enforced, and ever evolving towards improving.

My take / understanding is that both men were sincerely human and susceptible to mistakes.

Jim had his rules and it was his business.
We couldn't vote or tell a business owner how to do business. Some of us "voted" to simply leave.
Government isn't remotely the same thing. We can (or should be able to) tell them what to do. The government has been slowly playing roll reversal. It got to the tipping point as this election demonstrated.
During this election cycle EVERY single state gained Republican voters, not one blue state gained Democrats.
Trudeau banned guns, banned Brakleen banned WD-40 and during the truckers strike/demonstration during COVID, he froze the bank accounts and seized the truckers trucks, fined and jailed them. They hunted down every participant like our government did January 6th participants.
Trudeau learned that tyrants won't be tolerated.
Our administration learned something too, but I'm not sure how many of the members actually learned from it..... yet.

 

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Government isn't remotely the same thing. We can (or should be able to) tell them what to do. The government has been slowly playing roll reversal. It got to the tipping point as this election demonstrated.

Mark Z. is not the government, but the philosophy of rule makers, ( government or citizens ) who manage the enforcement or not, are going to make mistakes. Striving or demanding perfection from both is noble, but could this endeavor for perfection create more problems that delay improvements ?

As an aside, hey high up, I’m using the talk type feature and slowly learning how to feel comfortable with it.

As for the tipping point and Democrats losing states. That was Trump turning Liberal strength into weakness. He understands more than most on how to exploit, he’s the king exploiter, and history will decide whether this exploitation has helped with improvements or delayed and created more turmoil then was necessary.

In many ways some of our country’s citizens are divided like an unhealthy marriage and in need of therapy for the greater good of their children and citizens.