Discussing politics and religion

[Floorist]

Probably the biggest scandal in British history! From a recent GBNews yt interview:

Maggie Oliver, a former detective for Manchester police dept, was there in 2008 when Keir Starmer was the director of public prosecutions and Gordon Brown was the PM, when she found that "the greater Manchester police closed down a live investigation where we had a hundred pedophiles on a database that we knew were abusing dozens of children..not one person prosecuted"

Why was it closed down?

" a circular was sent out to all Crown prosecutors and police forces telling them that this was a well-known problem among the Pakistani Muslim Community, that young white children were being groomed or and *aped on a daily basis and that they should do nothing about it..."

From her interview on GBNews yt: "Cops ordered 'DO NOTHING' about grooming gangs as Starmer 'TURNS HIS BACK' on 'white victims"

Why do they rape girls? Another guest on a different GBNews interview said it's in their culture that boys and men are told that it's ok to abuse any non-Muslim girl. Even encouraged to do so.

 

[Floorist]

It is truly amazing to see just how bad things have gotten in the UK in such a short period of time, and how the people of Britain are being abused by their government. From the Islamic rape gangs allowed to rape and brutalize a now estimated 1/2 MILLION little British girls, the violence, vileness and dominance of Islamists throughout the nation. If you dare speak up about the horror of the rape gangs, and if you dare mention it on social media, police will put you in prison. Same if you say anything about their government they disapprove of. They locked up Tommy Robinson simply for sharing facts they did not like. Worse-they threaten to put AMERICANS in prison if we post comments critical of their government. NO American that values freedom in any manner should visit the UK. How the people of the UK let this happen...I don't understand.

 

[MSLI]

It is truly amazing to see just how bad things have gotten in the UK in such a short period of time, and how the people of Britain are being abused by their government.

Who is to blame, the left, the right, both ?
Or is it more complicated than that?

 

[Floorist]

Who is to blame, the left, the right, both ?
Or is it more complicated than that?

The far left is running things now.

 

[MSLI]

A quick google search turned up David Cameron ( A Conservative) having similar issues back in 2011….. So I say again!
Left issue, Right issue, or more complex than that ? …. Either way heads need to roll off the chopping block

More importantly have you ever considered How beneficial is it to take such an issue like this and place the focus onto a political party, rather than onto the bigger tragedy of corruption and criminal activity. IMHO that’s what Elon M. has done. They seem to be all in with this exploiting for political gain However if this type of tactic or branding yields real world results, then I would happily consider turning a blind eye to what I believe is Dirty Pool, unscrupulous mentoring, that we as a society will have to address before real improvements can happen

 

[Floorist]

A quick google search turned up David Cameron ( A Conservative) having similar issues back in 2011….. So I say again!
Left issue, Right issue, or more complex than that ? …. Either way heads need to roll off the chopping block

More importantly have you ever considered How beneficial is it to take such an issue like this and place the focus onto a political party, rather than onto the bigger tragedy of corruption and criminal activity. IMHO that’s what Elon M. has done. They seem to be all in with this exploiting for political gain However if this type of tactic or branding yields real world results, then I would happily consider turning a blind eye to what I believe is Dirty Pool, unscrupulous mentoring, that we as a society will have to address before real improvements can happen

The current PM of the UK is ignoring all criminal activity done by Muslims. And if someone speaks out, they are going to jail.

 

[MSLI]

The current PM of the UK is ignoring all criminal activity done by Muslims. And if someone speaks out, they are going to jail.

Sounds like fake or exploited news my friend

 

[Floorist]

Sounds like fake or exploited news my friend

They are not hiding it. It is happening.

 

[highup]

Mark Z. is not the government, but the philosophy of rule makers, ( government or citizens ) who manage the enforcement or not, are going to make mistakes. Striving or demanding perfection from both is noble, but could this endeavor for perfection create more problems that delay improvements ?

As an aside, hey high up, I’m using the talk type feature and slowly learning how to feel comfortable with it.

As for the tipping point and Democrats losing states. That was Trump turning Liberal strength into weakness. He understands more than most on how to exploit, he’s the king exploiter, and history will decide whether this exploitation has helped with improvements or delayed and created more turmoil then was necessary.

In many ways some of our country’s citizens are divided like an unhealthy marriage and in need of therapy for the greater good of their children and citizens.

When you use that talk type...... Beware..... If you don't check what you talk-typed after you post something, you might be in for a surprise.
On morning I went online here and Daris was asking what the hell I was drinking.
I read what I had supposedly "typed" and it was so out of whack I couldn't even begin to figure out what it was supposed to say.

It will total change one word into another...
....your mileage may vary.
All spel checkers may not be the same. I've got an android. Not sure if each phone brand uses the same spell check or not.
It's correct most of the time, or correct enough. Sometimes it's on meth, so keep an eye out.

 

[highup]

Mark Z. is not the government, but the philosophy of rule makers, ( government or citizens ) who manage the enforcement or not, are going to make mistakes. Striving or demanding perfection from both is noble, but could this endeavor for perfection create more problems that delay improvements ?

As an aside, hey high up, I’m using the talk type feature and slowly learning how to feel comfortable with it.

As for the tipping point and Democrats losing states. That was Trump turning Liberal strength into weakness. He understands more than most on how to exploit, he’s the king exploiter, and history will decide whether this exploitation has helped with improvements or delayed and created more turmoil then was necessary.

In many ways some of our country’s citizens are divided like an unhealthy marriage and in need of therapy for the greater good of their children and citizens.

No, Trump just help open their eyes. It's his charm. I'm amazed how you, like my brother can't see it.
He's so far ahead of sliced bread it will never catch with him in our lifetime.

 

[MSLI]

They are not hiding it. It is happening.

I just read the NPR story on this subject and it was interesting … For me it’s an 80/20 thing. ( just like Axminster Carpets ) 80 % wool and 20% Nylon. NPR Is the 80 % trusted wool and Elon is the 20 % shiny Nylon ….. Both have value and will perform properly together, but separately the natural fiber is the trusted real one and the synthetic fiber is the fake man made one …. but I understand the temptation to blame someone after unthinkable tragedies happen to children. Lets be careful not to turn Trumps winning marketing methods into real world complexity, please

 

[MSLI]

No, Trump just help open their eyes. It's his charm. I'm amazed how you, like my brother can't see it.
He's so far ahead of sliced bread it will never catch with him in our lifetime.

I believe everyone has the ability to open others eyes, including Trump. However, is this charm / perspective filled with sincerity or something else? My spider senses tell me it’s something else.

Good may come from this unconventional strategy tragedy but is it something we want our children to aspire to ?

 

[highup]

.....oh, and Mark Z worked hand in hand as an extension of the hand of government overreach.
He ought to be in jail. He should be for the people. He should question government.
He did the opposite because he liked the current anti Trump government model.
He spent $300 million in the previous election putting ballot boxes in heavy Democrat locations...... Only Democrat locations.
They can't help him now because they lost power.
He's playing games and sucking up right now.
Too little to late? We will see.
When Hunters laptop was exposed, it was extremely obvious it was his.
The government told Zuckerberg it had all the earmarks of "Soviet disinformation". (It had none)
Instead of looking into it. I stead of questioning them, he started banning and deleting comments like a good boy. He doesn't like Trump so he did the governments bidding.... Happily so.
Same with COVID and that magical word "COVID". More banning if you doubted the government.
He and they had hands on each other's pants. The media played along happily too. Ban and silence naysayers. What a better combo than all of social media literally joined at the hip with the federal government?
It's time to legally destroy whatever needs to be destroyed.
A new beginning. A lot of heads will be rolling and the start of a new era or restructuring of government is about to begin.
Trump's first term began and ended with our own government and it's internal power structure organized and empowered, trying to destroy him.
The FBI, CIA and attorney generals departments need to be pressure washed, hung out to dry and discard the cleaning label. They then need to be restructured in a way that makes them work with and FOR the president.
What they did to him during his first term was Soviet style rule but against their own leader. All the heads in those departments need to roll.
........if they delete records and destroy evidence on their way out..... Charge them with treason and life sentences
What the did needs NEVER again to happen to a US president.

Invade and conquer Greenland first. Wait for the Canadian economy to get better before wasting time taking them over.

Edited:
I wasn't finished venting

 

[Floorist]

Safeguarding minister Jess Phillips’ decision to block a public inquiry into the Oldham grooming gangs seems, from the outside, to be almost inexplicable. Children were raped and abused by gangs of men while the authorities failed to protect them.

A review of the abuse in Oldham was released in 2022, but its terms of reference only stretched from 2011-2014. Survivors from the town said that they wanted a government-led inquiry to cover a longer period, and catch what the previous review had missed. In Jess Phillips’s letter to the council, revealed by GB News, she said she understood the strength of feeling in the town, but thought it best for another local review to take place.

This is a scandal that should be rooted out entirely, and investigated by the full might of the British state. Voices ranging from Elon Musk to Kemi Badenoch have joined the calls for an inquiry. Yet the Government seems curiously reluctant to dig into the failings of officials.

This reluctance is not new. Across the country, in towns and in cities, on our streets and in the state institutions designed to protect the most vulnerable members of our society, authorities deliberately turned a blind eye to horrific abuse of largely white children by gangs of men predominantly of Pakistani heritage.

Over time, details have come to light about abuse in Rotherham, in Telford, in Rochdale and in dozens of other places. But with the stories released in dribs and drabs, and the details so horrific as to be almost unreadable, the full scale of the scandal has still to reach the public.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ord-rotherham/

This is but a small snippet of a long article, and I left out all of the sordid details which are truly sickening.

To be clear these are Pakistani rape gangs, or rape and torture gangs, not grooming gangs, but at least there now seems to be renewed efforts to shine a light on these atrocities that the British people allowed to happen to their own daughters because they were afraid to be called "far right" or racist.

If their government continues to cover this up Trump should threaten sanctions on them.

 

[highup]

I believe everyone has the ability to open others eyes, including Trump. However, is this charm / perspective filled with sincerity or something else? My spider senses tell me it’s something else.

Good may come from this unconventional strategy tragedy but is it something we want our children to aspire to ?

He could have spent the last 8 years going and enjoying life. Instead he thrust himself into a money pit because he likes what we used to be. My brother says he's doing it for the money
How many hundred million has he lost?
He doesn't care how much he lost. Making money by running is a goal of senators retiring be employed.as lobbyists for big pharma. Trump won the popular vote. Saying or thinking he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes is literally calling them stupid.
No....people see his passion for returning this county to what it used to be. They are tired of woke being more important than the prices of food, fuel and housing.

Gay? Lesbian? Trans? Him-Her? She-They? kitten or doggy? Not sure?
Guess what, it's finally OK to say out that you don't give a feces what someone thinks they are. Nobody cares... Be who you are and go to work or go about your day just like everyone else. We're tired of all the noise those people make.
They get one entire month of the year to annoy us, and veterans and the war dead each get one day. . That's beyond the comprehension of 99% of is. I'm including normal gay people. Normal gay people most likely ignore the month. The government on like everyone else.
Trump is like Reagan on steroids.
He's going to go down in history as one of the best presidents that we've ever had.

 

[MSLI]

Trump won the popular vote. Saying or thinking he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes is literally calling them stupid.
No....people see his passion for returning this county to what it used to be. They are tired of woke being more important than the prices of food, fuel and housing.

We as humans have an insatiable desire to compare ourselves to others. This comparison can be a good thing, but then again, it can be really problematic. Trumps marketing plan played into the populace insatiable desire to compare. It was a pep rally to beat and win over a group of people that most despise. To say that this populace is stupid is an overreach, what they are is every day normal human beings, whose psychology is being exploited. …. We all make choices and mistakes, but to purposefully
pit one group against another and call it righteousness, that’s a red flag wavy in 100 mile an hour winds. How do they not see it ? ….They decided to put a bull’s-eye on the Democratic liberal left party. It worked, they won, and are feeling emboldened. These are high profile people who like results and are willing to play dirty to get them. The average person doesn’t experience this type of power in their lifetime and such power requires disciplined responsibility for the greater good. I just don’t see that trait being portrayed from the new leadership. I hope that assessment is not accurate, notice I was careful not to say right or wrong, but in the middle, the balancing area The none comparison area. I hope this assessment is not completely accurate and that there is a plan to circle back towards Civility. If the populace continue to think in terms of right and wrong, and continue to place the bull’s-eye on one side, or the other, the learning curve towards improvement gets pulled tight, so tight that there is no curve to learn from, only division / negative comparisons, God help us ! ….. They think God already is helping and once you think God is on your side, oh boy watch out, because humans have misunderstood God , Allah, and the rest of them in accurately, In my humble opinion. I’m starting to like this talk - type