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It never formed perfectly to the wood, so you absolutely needed to make outside corners in sequence from the same piece.
Horrible stuff to work with. For inside corners, coping, assisted by a sanding drum on a Dremel worked good.

Some of the cheapo box store stuff was like that. Complete garbage.
 
Stopped at Goodwill tonight. They're on the expensive side of 2nd hand stores, so I don't stop there much. I was just lookin' for some fabric material to hang over the Kitchen/hall doorway to save on the electric bill. Found something in the linen section for $12. It'll fold a few times plus some snippity snip.
They had a pair of USB, LED lights I thought might work by my desk or maybe in the back by the drill press.
....it was a matching pair with separate off/on switches.... Looked new including mounting screws and they have magnetic ends. $6.99, 30 little LEDs in each one....
...aw what the heck.

Got home, plugged one in.
BLACK LIGHTS.... OH, MY, GOD, do I have places to clean up.
😱😱😱😱😱
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I also bought one of the two dimmable photo/video light panels. I'm going tomorrow to buy the second one.
They are sold as a pair and are 5200 kelvin lights with diffusers.
I didn't realize what the little light panel (3" by 4 1/2") was, aside from being dimmable, it's a 5200K light.
5200K the color temperature of daylight.
That's a good thang photography wise. I watched a YouTuber make a slide copier gizmo out of plywood to copy his slides using his cel phone. Lighting, especially color temperature, is a HUGE issue in doing this.
Anyway, the second light will probably still be there tomorrow.

Here's the black lights.... Not sure that to use them for yet..... But NO way am I taking it into the bathroom. These are pretty bright.🤣
 

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Rolled out of the shop yesterday. Looks pretty good when it’s all put back together.

Funny thing, at least funny to me, is this trailer came to us because a cactus fell on it and crushed the roof, and I do mean crushed. That’s one hell of a cactus!


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Rolled out of the shop yesterday. Looks pretty good when it’s all put back together.

Funny thing, at least funny to me, is this trailer came to us because a cactus fell on it and crushed the roof, and I do mean crushed. That’s one hell of a cactus!


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Conestoga wagon for the elite settler or a 17th century schooner?
Bet it will feel comfortable and cozy compared to a motor coach with granite counter tops and a central vac system. 👍
 
Conestoga wagon for the elite settler or a 17th century schooner?
Bet it will feel comfortable and cozy compared to a motor coach with granite counter tops and a central vac system. 👍

Granite is overrated. Lipstick on a pig. Got a ****** apartment, put granite in there. Now it’s ‘luxury’ and you can jack up the rent.
 
Lipstick on a pig, Polish the turd , that’s the maintenance men’s job day in and day out….. I used up an old bag of gypsum patch yesterday. Had to remove the hydraulic ( cementitious ) patch the maintenance Man used last time.
I shot hot glue ( cartilage 😜 ) into the joints first to stabilize the movement. I forgot to photograph the completion 😏 but here’s a different area.
 

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No pictures today or necessary for this question/ observation.

Title: When it comes to discerning free or billable, for a service calls, does it matter how the carpet was stretched before deciding ?

Today’s job was a re-stretch in Lr, Dr, Hall + Br. in an occupied apartment. Carpet was installed 12 years ago by a subcontractor who is well known for not power stretching. I use him on a very limited basis because of that. Anywho, it took me 3.50 hrs. ….. Ok ! Here comes the fun scruples question, using the above question as your guide. Should I bill for the service ?

My off the top argument to myself sounds like this: I shouldn’t bill, since it was not installed in a manner recognized universally as industry standards. However, if it was installed power stretch industry standards, then I would be more inclined to bill for the re-stretch. 🤷🏻‍♂️

What say you, 🤔
 
No pictures today or necessary for this question/ observation.

Title: When it comes to discerning free or billable, for a service calls, does it matter how the carpet was stretched before deciding ?

Today’s job was a re-stretch in Lr, Dr, Hall + Br. in an occupied apartment. Carpet was installed 12 years ago by a subcontractor who is well known for not power stretching. I use him on a very limited basis because of that. Anywho, it took me 3.50 hrs. ….. Ok ! Here comes the fun scruples question, using the above question as your guide. Should I bill for the service ?

My off the top argument to myself sounds like this: I shouldn’t bill, since it was not installed in a manner recognized universally as industry standards. However, if it was installed power stretch industry standards, then I would be more inclined to bill for the re-stretch. 🤷🏻‍♂️

What say you, 🤔
They got 12 years out of it, Bill them.
 
You’re not the one who didn’t power stretch it. Bill em!
I’m the one who hired the none power stretching guy and history ( the past 21years ) tells me that 99% of power stretched units do not wrinkle….. In case you did not notice, I’m diving deep into the ‘ manner ‘ or methods used and how they matter when discerning liabilities. Carpet install or other human services.

Let’s do a hypothetical : Old lady neglects to inform retailer about wrinkles in a timely manner and the installer neglected to use the power stretcher . Lady trips falls down stairs and dies. When litigating the law suit for liability, the means and manner will most definitely be a factor during judgment time…… If you were on the jury what percentage of liability would you place on both parties ?

My discernment would be to place a claim number on the retailer + installer jointly because they created the hazard, but then subtract 25% due to the woman’s neglect to inform. However if the installer could prove they power stretched the carpet and have a history of delivering none wrinkled carpets, does that knowledge of industry standards delivered change the percentage of liability ? Say to 50 50 ? or even 100 % onto the dead lady ?
 
Well, I guess it depends on what she looks like?

Yes, sick retired cop humor.
:devil:
Nice 👍, I needed that, I’m over thinking once again, can’t help it. Actually I’m doing it now. Since I sat on the shop vac for 15 minutes writing that above question , should I subtract that time from the possible bill 😜 ….. So this is what a rabbit hole looks like 🤪

Went to the Flyers game last night, Carolina Hurricane’s ( fitting name after the storm) tornadoed through the Flyers like they were a high school hockey team 😡
 
I’m the one who hired the none power stretching guy and history ( the past 21years ) tells me that 99% of power stretched units do not wrinkle….. In case you did not notice, I’m diving deep into the ‘ manner ‘ or methods used and how they matter when discerning liabilities. Carpet install or other human services.

Let’s do a hypothetical : Old **** neglects to inform retailer about wrinkles in a timely manner and the installer neglected to use the power stretcher . **** trips falls down stairs and dies. When litigating the law suit for liability, the means and manner will most definitely be a factor during judgment time…… If you were on the jury what percentage of liability would you place on both parties ?

My discernment would be to place a claim number on the retailer + installer jointly because they created the hazard, but then subtract 25% due to the woman’s neglect to inform. However if the installer could prove they power stretched the carpet and have a history of delivering none wrinkled carpets, does that knowledge of industry standards delivered change the percentage of liability ? Say to 50 50 ? or even 100 % onto the dead **** ?

You lost me there. Are we going down a moral road of thought? If so then since you were the one who hired so n so and blah blah, then yeah, knock a few bucks off cus you feel bad. Don't mean to come off as an ass but that’s what this is about when you get right down to it.

On the other hand, if f we’re looking at this as a business transaction, the customer got 12 years out of an install before needing a restretch and you should charge them because you only offer a one year warranty. Did you offer the customer a lifetime warranty? If no then business dictates that they got what they paid for and you need to be paid for the repair because this is a whole new transaction, because you’ve fulfilled the requirements of the previous one.

It’s OK to be a good person, but you got to get paid if you want to survive so that you can continue being a good person.
 
You lost me there. Are we going down a moral road of thought?
Thanks for engaging, I’ve been diving into deep waters of Scruples, more than usual 🤷🏻‍♂️….. It’s been a world win of insanity, and being on edge for the past 8 years, 😩 with no definitive answers towards improvement…..I guess I’m searching for some kind of formula that brings clarity, and then maybe a desire to improve. I’m using everyday experience from flooring to find similarities. …. If we choose to take short cuts in life, the possibility of failure in 12 years or so is much higher and could happen more frequently than if we chose proven standards. The idea came while in the middle of power stretching 😂….I saw the similarity of a perceived good service on day one ( flat carpet ) only to be followed by disappointment years later. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ….. If society continues to abandon standards of service in trades or in humanities, will the percentages of liability increase and the restoration process prove costly 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Here's my thinking. It's 100% her fault because she's tripped or stumbled over the wrinkles a couple dozen times over the past two or three years and never notified the retailer.
She new it was an issue and did nothing.
Now, if the wrinkles suddenly appeared over an 8 hour period as she slept... and subsequently tripped on the newly formed Jack and the Beanstalk wrinkle..... Well in that case it's the installers fault.
 
Thanks for engaging, I’ve been diving into deep waters of Scruples, more than usual 🤷🏻‍♂️….. It’s been a world win of insanity, and being on edge for the past 8 years, 😩 with no definitive answers towards improvement…..I guess I’m searching for some kind of formula that brings clarity, and then maybe a desire to improve. I’m using everyday experience from flooring to find similarities. …. If we choose to take short cuts in life, the possibility of failure in 12 years or so is much higher and could happen more frequently than if we chose proven standards. The idea came while in the middle of power stretching 😂….I saw the similarity of a perceived good service on day one ( flat carpet ) only to be followed by disappointment years later. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ….. If society continues to abandon standards of service in trades or in humanities, will the percentages of liability increase and the restoration process prove costly 🤷🏻‍♂️

I gotcha but there is no short answer to your ponderings. The entire world is going to **** and it’s all because of money (profit). Dude booting in rug instead of power stretching is nothing more than shrinkflation. And if he was doing that 12 years ago, does that mean he’s ahead of the curve? You see this crap every day with new smaller portion sized items or levels of service for the same price yet when an individual does it, as opposed to a corporation, somehow it’s wrong. Why are we, as individuals, held to a different standard than the rest of the world around us. Ponder that for a minute while you’re eating your Big Mac that looks absolutely nothing like the picture you’re shown on the menu board, and you knew that before you even bought it.
 
I saw the similarity of a perceived good service on day one ( flat carpet ) only to be followed by disappointment years later. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ….. If society continues to abandon standards of service in trades or in humanities, will the percentages of liability increase and the restoration process prove costly 🤷🏻‍♂️

Overtone’s Window refers to what is politically acceptable at the current time. Remove the political aspect and insert something else, like floor covering or just business in general, and it’s really no different. The public sets the standard for what is acceptable to them, the window, and anybody that wants to succeed has to be within that window. The window changes over time. What you’re imagining the way floor covering should be is the way it used to be, because that’s where the window was, during your formative years of learning the trade. Things change and the window has moved. Sending out some hack to boot in a job is more acceptable now than it was back then. Problem is if that’s what you’re telling your customers they’re getting, you’ll have no customers. So you put up a picture of a big juicy perfectly assembled hamburger and that’s what you go with. Just like the hamburger, people know that’s not what they’re actually getting but as long as that’s what you show and tell them, they’ll keep buying it even though they know it’s a lie.

So now you know that you can lie to people and they’ll happily accept it, are you really in the wrong for lying to them since it’s what they really want to hear. Now instead of lying you’re giving the customer what they want. They’re happy and you made money. It’s F’d up but that’s where the window currently is. If you want to be successful you kinda gotta be within that window yourself.
 

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