What did you do today?

[C.J.]

You’re not the one who didn’t power stretch it. Bill em!

 

[MSLI]

You’re not the one who didn’t power stretch it. Bill em!

I’m the one who hired the none power stretching guy and history ( the past 21years ) tells me that 99% of power stretched units do not wrinkle….. In case you did not notice, I’m diving deep into the ‘ manner ‘ or methods used and how they matter when discerning liabilities. Carpet install or other human services.

Let’s do a hypothetical : Old lady neglects to inform retailer about wrinkles in a timely manner and the installer neglected to use the power stretcher . Lady trips falls down stairs and dies. When litigating the law suit for liability, the means and manner will most definitely be a factor during judgment time…… If you were on the jury what percentage of liability would you place on both parties ?

My discernment would be to place a claim number on the retailer + installer jointly because they created the hazard, but then subtract 25% due to the woman’s neglect to inform. However if the installer could prove they power stretched the carpet and have a history of delivering none wrinkled carpets, does that knowledge of industry standards delivered change the percentage of liability ? Say to 50 50 ? or even 100 % onto the dead lady ?

 

[havasu]

Well, I guess it depends on what she looks like?

Yes, sick retired cop humor.

 

[MSLI]

Well, I guess it depends on what she looks like?

Yes, sick retired cop humor.

Nice , I needed that, I’m over thinking once again, can’t help it. Actually I’m doing it now. Since I sat on the shop vac for 15 minutes writing that above question , should I subtract that time from the possible bill ….. So this is what a rabbit hole looks like

Went to the Flyers game last night, Carolina Hurricane’s ( fitting name after the storm) tornadoed through the Flyers like they were a high school hockey team

 

[C.J.]

I’m the one who hired the none power stretching guy and history ( the past 21years ) tells me that 99% of power stretched units do not wrinkle….. In case you did not notice, I’m diving deep into the ‘ manner ‘ or methods used and how they matter when discerning liabilities. Carpet install or other human services.

Let’s do a hypothetical : Old **** neglects to inform retailer about wrinkles in a timely manner and the installer neglected to use the power stretcher . **** trips falls down stairs and dies. When litigating the law suit for liability, the means and manner will most definitely be a factor during judgment time…… If you were on the jury what percentage of liability would you place on both parties ?

My discernment would be to place a claim number on the retailer + installer jointly because they created the hazard, but then subtract 25% due to the woman’s neglect to inform. However if the installer could prove they power stretched the carpet and have a history of delivering none wrinkled carpets, does that knowledge of industry standards delivered change the percentage of liability ? Say to 50 50 ? or even 100 % onto the dead **** ?

You lost me there. Are we going down a moral road of thought? If so then since you were the one who hired so n so and blah blah, then yeah, knock a few bucks off cus you feel bad. Don't mean to come off as an *** but that’s what this is about when you get right down to it.

On the other hand, if f we’re looking at this as a business transaction, the customer got 12 years out of an install before needing a restretch and you should charge them because you only offer a one year warranty. Did you offer the customer a lifetime warranty? If no then business dictates that they got what they paid for and you need to be paid for the repair because this is a whole new transaction, because you’ve fulfilled the requirements of the previous one.

It’s OK to be a good person, but you got to get paid if you want to survive so that you can continue being a good person.

 

[MSLI]

You lost me there. Are we going down a moral road of thought?

Thanks for engaging, I’ve been diving into deep waters of Scruples, more than usual ….. It’s been a world win of insanity, and being on edge for the past 8 years, with no definitive answers towards improvement…..I guess I’m searching for some kind of formula that brings clarity, and then maybe a desire to improve. I’m using everyday experience from flooring to find similarities. …. If we choose to take short cuts in life, the possibility of failure in 12 years or so is much higher and could happen more frequently than if we chose proven standards. The idea came while in the middle of power stretching ….I saw the similarity of a perceived good service on day one ( flat carpet ) only to be followed by disappointment years later. ….. If society continues to abandon standards of service in trades or in humanities, will the percentages of liability increase and the restoration process prove costly

 

[highup]

Here's my thinking. It's 100% her fault because she's tripped or stumbled over the wrinkles a couple dozen times over the past two or three years and never notified the retailer.
She new it was an issue and did nothing.
Now, if the wrinkles suddenly appeared over an 8 hour period as she slept... and subsequently tripped on the newly formed Jack and the Beanstalk wrinkle..... Well in that case it's the installers fault.