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[Ernesto]

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[Ernesto]

I do not condone lots of things that Trump has said, just like I did not condone many actions from President Obama. It just seems when we didn't like something Obama did, or failed to do, it was met by his group saying, well, it's ok, But damn, Trump isn't a politician. He is a businessman. He is trying to right a sinking shop. Nobody said boo when Obama commuted the sentences of 1200 blacks, mostly Muslims, in the final hours of his presidency, or the secret payment of $221 Million to the Palestinians, against the stop request from Congress. Hell, if Trump did a secret deal such as this, you'd want his head on a platter. Here are one author's Obama's Top Ten Blunders, that failed to even be a concern to most liberals.

10) The ObamaCare roll-out disaster: For such a tech-savvy White House, the bungling of the healthcare reform website was shocking, and a sign of things to come for a controversial law that never recovered from its initial missteps.

9) Syria’s “red line”: The president lost all credibility when he said that he would punish Syrian strongman Bashar Assad for using chemical weapons. When it was proven that Assad did deploy them against his own people, Obama refused to act without congressional authorization — authorization that never came.
8) Obama’s pen and phone: At the beginning of the year, the president suggested he was going to go around Congress, simultaneously raising expectations about his actions and lowering hopes for any progress on the legislative front.

7) The Ukrainian crisis: Not unlike former President Carter’s ineffectual response to the Soviet invasion of the Afghanistan in 1979, Obama looked weak when Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea and threatened to seize the rest of the Ukraine, piece by piece.

6) Obama’s broken promises on immigration reform: The president promised several times over the past year that he would take executive action on immigration, only to pull the football away at the last moment. His inaction demoralized Hispanic voters while stoking conspiracy theories on the right about what he was going to do after the election. The border surge only made the situation worse.

5) ISIS and ‘Golf-gate’: Directly after making a comment about the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria’s (ISIS) execution of journalist James Foley, the president headed to the golf course. For that, he was justly criticized for being disengaged and unserious. His comment that he didn’t have a strategy to deal with the nascent terrorist group further cemented his reputation as a bumbler who didn’t know what he was doing.

4) Holder to Ferguson: The president implicitly picked sides by allowing his attorney general, Eric Holder, to define his position on the controversial shooting this summer in a St. Louis suburb. Either you are on the side of law and order or you aren’t, and Obama’s approval ratings have fallen precipitously since that moment.

3) Ebola: While the president is not to blame for the Ebola outbreak, his comments on the spread of the virus have proven to be inaccurate and led to the perception that he didn’t have a plan. He long resisted calls to appoint a point person to lead the effort, only to later buckle and appoint a political strategist to the position of Ebola czar. He refused to issue a travel ban from countries that had Ebola outbreaks, giving Republicans a huge political talking point.

2) Policies on the ballot: Obama told students at Northwestern University, “Make no mistake. These policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them.” For the Democratic senators who voted with Obama and his policies 97 percent of the time, those comments were most unhelpful at a time when they least needed the reminder.

1) Telling the wrong story: The American people care about the economy. The president doesn’t have a bad story to tell when it comes to jobs, the unemployment rate, the deficit, etc. If he were Ronald Reagan, it would be the Morning in America campaign. But the strategy of the Democrats wasn’t to talk about the economy. Instead they wanted to talk about contraception, the war on women and other narrow issues. At the end, they turned to race baiting to get blacks to the polls.

This election will turn out to be a referendum on the president’s job performance. He made several critical mistakes throughout the last two years that hurt his credibility as voters lost faith in his leadership.

Feehery is president of Quinn Gillespie Communications and spent 15 years working in the House Republican leadership. He is a contributor to The Hill’s Pundits Blog and blogs at thefeeherytheory.com.

Tags Barack Obama

Trump coporation was pretty much bankrupt and could only get loans from Russian oligarchs who own russian banks that are run by russia and putin.
How many times did trump file bankruptcy and screw its contractors?

 

[Nick]

I have a friend he beat out of $400,000 .. Pour guy lost his Business, and his house .. He was a cheap piece of $hit way before he ran for Office ..

Want to bet there will be no Tariffs on Shoes from China ? Not after his Daughter just got 7 new trade marks .. Make America great again .. What a crock ..

 

[Ernesto]

Trumph said he would allow Putin to interrogate our ambassador and other government officials on U S soil. Putin even harassed their children at soccer games when stationed in moscow.
On camera Trump said he thought it was a good idea . Plus allow Russia to see all of Mueller's documents.

 

[Nick]

 

[highup]

I do not condone lots of things that Trump has said, just like I did not condone many actions from President Obama. It just seems when we didn't like something Obama did, or failed to do, it was met by his group saying, well, it's ok, But damn, Trump isn't a politician. He is a businessman. He is trying to right a sinking shop. Nobody said boo when Obama commuted the sentences of 1200 blacks, mostly Muslims, in the final hours of his presidency, or the secret payment of $221 Million to the Palestinians, against the stop request from Congress. Hell, if Trump did a secret deal such as this, you'd want his head on a platter. Here are one author's Obama's Top Ten Blunders, that failed to even be a concern to most liberals.

10) The ObamaCare roll-out disaster: For such a tech-savvy White House, the bungling of the healthcare reform website was shocking, and a sign of things to come for a controversial law that never recovered from its initial missteps.

9) Syria’s “red line”: The president lost all credibility when he said that he would punish Syrian strongman Bashar Assad for using chemical weapons. When it was proven that Assad did deploy them against his own people, Obama refused to act without congressional authorization — authorization that never came.
8) Obama’s pen and phone: At the beginning of the year, the president suggested he was going to go around Congress, simultaneously raising expectations about his actions and lowering hopes for any progress on the legislative front.

7) The Ukrainian crisis: Not unlike former President Carter’s ineffectual response to the Soviet invasion of the Afghanistan in 1979, Obama looked weak when Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea and threatened to seize the rest of the Ukraine, piece by piece.

6) Obama’s broken promises on immigration reform: The president promised several times over the past year that he would take executive action on immigration, only to pull the football away at the last moment. His inaction demoralized Hispanic voters while stoking conspiracy theories on the right about what he was going to do after the election. The border surge only made the situation worse.

5) ISIS and ‘Golf-gate’: Directly after making a comment about the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria’s (ISIS) execution of journalist James Foley, the president headed to the golf course. For that, he was justly criticized for being disengaged and unserious. His comment that he didn’t have a strategy to deal with the nascent terrorist group further cemented his reputation as a bumbler who didn’t know what he was doing.

4) Holder to Ferguson: The president implicitly picked sides by allowing his attorney general, Eric Holder, to define his position on the controversial shooting this summer in a St. Louis suburb. Either you are on the side of law and order or you aren’t, and Obama’s approval ratings have fallen precipitously since that moment.

3) Ebola: While the president is not to blame for the Ebola outbreak, his comments on the spread of the virus have proven to be inaccurate and led to the perception that he didn’t have a plan. He long resisted calls to appoint a point person to lead the effort, only to later buckle and appoint a political strategist to the position of Ebola czar. He refused to issue a travel ban from countries that had Ebola outbreaks, giving Republicans a huge political talking point.

2) Policies on the ballot: Obama told students at Northwestern University, “Make no mistake. These policies are on the ballot. Every single one of them.” For the Democratic senators who voted with Obama and his policies 97 percent of the time, those comments were most unhelpful at a time when they least needed the reminder.

1) Telling the wrong story: The American people care about the economy. The president doesn’t have a bad story to tell when it comes to jobs, the unemployment rate, the deficit, etc. If he were Ronald Reagan, it would be the Morning in America campaign. But the strategy of the Democrats wasn’t to talk about the economy. Instead they wanted to talk about contraception, the war on women and other narrow issues. At the end, they turned to race baiting to get blacks to the polls.

This election will turn out to be a referendum on the president’s job performance. He made several critical mistakes throughout the last two years that hurt his credibility as voters lost faith in his leadership.

Feehery is president of Quinn Gillespie Communications and spent 15 years working in the House Republican leadership. He is a contributor to The Hill’s Pundits Blog and blogs at thefeeherytheory.com.

Tags Barack Obama

.........you can keep your doctor.

 

[Nick]

I wouldn't know where to keep him Hi ..

 

[Floorist]

Obamacare was discussed for over a year. Not one republican offered any amendments to it.

 

[Nick]

Because they wanted it to fail.. That Turtle head Mitch said at the beginning his job was to get Obama out of the White House ..

 

[havasu]

...and now the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[highup]

I wouldn't know where to keep him Hi ..

At your age, I'd keep him in the guest bedroom so you wouldn't forget where he is.

...ooops, sorry.
I thought you were Daris.

 

[havasu]

Careful now. Nick is an expert cobbler, specializing in concrete shoes!

 

[Nick]

 

[Floorist]

The Earth has warmed since the end of the "little ice age" which lasted from about 1350 to 1850, a time during which glaciers advanced, crop failures increased, deaths from epidemics and plague were common and Washington crossed an ice-choked Delaware river. So, we were due for an upturn and we have gotten it.

Prior to that, we had the medieval warming period, which lasted from 800 to about 1300. This was when the Vikings were the terror of Europe and Greenland was actually green.

So as you can see, the warming we have experienced since the end of the little ice-age is not unusual or unexpected at all.

 

[highup]

.....but Rusty, that's not fair. We want the temperature to always be the same.
But first, we need to get back to having an ice choked Delaware River and use that for our baseline "normal" .
Next, put Elon Musk in charge of building the worlds largest thermostat.
Bill Nye, Al Gore and Ed Bagly Jr. could act as his advisor team.

 

[Nick]

It had big chunks of ice in it a few times.. Has a 10 MPH current ..

 

[Floorist]

.....but Rusty, that's not fair. We want the temperature to always be the same.
But first, we need to get back to having an ice choked Delaware River and use that for our baseline "normal" .
Next, put Elon Musk in charge of building the worlds largest thermostat.
Bill Nye, Al Gore and Ed Bagly Jr. could act as his advisor team.

Bill Nye, the fake science guy. Has a degree in mechanical engineering.

 

[Ernesto]

Fiction; a belief or statement that is false, but that is often held to be true because it is expedient to do so.

 

[zannej]

I can't just dismiss what Trump said as "mistakes". Unless he's a completely mentally deficient (in which case he wouldn't be fit to be president) there is no way he could actually believe that Russia didn't interfere-- which, by the way, is an actual act of war by our current laws-- and that Putin can be trusted more than the IC people. Changing "would" to "wouldn't" does not fit with his full statement in context. It's just BS. Plus, he has continued to say that our IC people suck & that he trusts Putin. Everyone else-- even members of the GOP-- say Putin can't be trusted. So, I have no doubt that Trump is being blackmailed. I also suspect that many members of the GOP & even some from the Dem side are being blackmailed and/or bribed.

Jill Stein was supposedly a Kremlin cronie-- with photos of her meeting with Russian oligarchs & the Russian propaganda encouraged people to vote for her instead of Hillary. There are even some claims that Bernie was sent by the Russians specifically to divide the Democrats & prevent them presenting a united front to vote for Hillary. Again, I wish we'd had other options for president-- ones that had a real chance of winning-- but Hillary wouldn't have been able to do much with the GOP controlling Congress.

Our country was founded on immigrants. I wouldn't be here if we'd had stricter immigration policies because all but my native American ancestors immigrated here after the Civil War. That doesn't mean we don't need intelligent immigration laws & that we don't need to have enforcement. Part of the problem we now face was because a former commissioner of INS (an appointee of Clinton) wanted to abolish INS & did everything she could to sabotage it-- including crippling internal enforcement & allowing people to come in without vetting (with retroactive vetting being the idea). But, the people coming in are still human beings. There are still innocent children who are suffering & there are human rights violations going on. Many of the immigrants who are being separated from their children are actually coming in legally and seeking asylum. There have been some reports that possible US citizens have been separated from their kids. The current policy is racist-- it's being applied to people who are brown, but citizens of China & Russia are literally buying citizenship.

The laws are not being applied equally or fairly. Nevermind that Trump hired illegal immigrants to build & work at his resorts.
Looks like he's totally flipping his lid over Cohen's tapes, Butina's arrest, and Manafort's trial. I think there will be a lot that will come out that will prove he is a criminal.

As for the party politics, tit for tat, & refusal to work together-- I think it just mirrors the "I'm Against It" song from Groucho Marx. Both parties play this stupid game where they try to cockblock the others just because someone from the opposing party suggested it. They don't care about fair wages, labor laws/protections, medical benefits, social security, medicare, etc because they are all taken care of for life. They get pensions, premium ACA medical plans, & legislative immunity. Since it is legal for them to be bribed, they sell themselves to the highest bidder-- and they are more worried about votes/donations than they are about doing the right thing.

Which brings me to another thing-- they are trying to get rid of the Johnson Amendment-- it bars nonprofit organizations from participating in politics. They are not allowed to promote or obstruct particular candidates, they are not allowed to lobby, & they are not allowed to donate $ to political candidates. Under the current administration, the IRS has been told not to enforce this when it comes to churches. Churches are tax exempt, there are special tax cuts for "ministers of the gospel", and churches are not held to any standards for having to reveal who their donors are. That means they are perfect for money laundering. If they are allowed to lobby without penalty, then it will be abused. "Dark money" will be funneled in & used to control candidates from both parties. Also, people who just want to go to church will be subjected to political agendas. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

Back to Trump-- he was screaming at Iran (which has banned Twitter since 2009) acting like he's going to go to war-- meanwhile they pulled up some old tweets of his where he accused Obama of wanting to go to war with Iran to get re-elected. So, it is clear he thinks that is a valid strategy.

Oh man, Al Gore-- what a hypocritical blowhard he is! Didn't they do a study and say he used 3x or 4x more power than any other house in the area but he talks about green living & the environment? But Bush Jr quietly lives in a home that is fully solar powered?

 

[Ernesto]

Hey, I voted for the stoner dude. Dont blame me. He even likes guns.