What did you do today?

[highup]

I'll find out tomorrow if his knife looks like that or the older half Moon shape. Water lines the blade?
I finished the seams at 7pm on a Sunday. Wood floor re finisher arrived early Monday morning and took over the house. I knew that was scheduled for Monday.
I came back a week later to gaps.
If they said wait a minimum of two and a half hours they should have also included a maximum number of hours.
This material laid flat in a warm house for 3 days
I installed it and the seams look good then after a week it shrunk.
What I am doing is tedious but looks quite doable. I'm not concerned with how much time it takes me. Just want this job to be done and the customer happy.
Right now if I heat the area surrounding the same about a foot in each direction, the seam will close halfway up. If I heated it more, maybe it would close all the way up. But then I would probably have to keep the seam constanly warm for a couple hours until the seam sealant totally cured. Once cooled, there would be a lot of tension on that cold welded seam.

 

[Jon]

I'll find out tomorrow if his knife looks like that or the older half Moon shape. Water lines the blade?
I finished the seams at 7pm on a Sunday. Wood floor re finisher arrived early Monday morning and took over the house. I knew that was scheduled for Monday.
I came back a week later to gaps.
If they said wait a minimum of two and a half hours they should have also included a maximum number of hours.
This material laid flat in a warm house for 3 days
I installed it and the seams look good then after a week it shrunk.
What I am doing is tedious but looks quite doable. I'm not concerned with how much time it takes me. Just want this job to be done and the customer happy.
Right now if I heat the area surrounding the same about a foot in each direction, the seam will close halfway up. If I heated it more, maybe it would close all the way up. But then I would probably have to keep the seam constanly warm for a couple hours until the seam sealant totally cured. Once cooled, there would be a lot of tension on that cold welded seam.

Seems to me if you can react the vinyl to close the gap the glue hasnt crabbed the vinyl which is why it has shrunk that little The glue we use you wouldnt be able to stretch it over once the glue has dried
The damp floor makes the cutting off blade slide better. The damp rag works well on heat welding Marmo, cools the weld then slides better when trimming off that weld

 

[zannej]

Hope the seam stays sealed & doesn't show, Highup.
I just found out that my best friend's crackhead mother may have exposed us both to Covid. She had him driving her all over the place & then asked me for a lift. She never once mentioned that she'd spent a great deal of time at a church that just got shut down due to a Covid outbreak. At least 10 people tested positive there. That was a few days ago & she just mentioned it to my friend last night after she had him give her a lift. He's been ordered to stay home until the results for his covid test come in. If he tests positive I'll ask my doctor about getting tested. I've had a cough the last few days although it's most likely a combination of weather, allergies, and my sinuses. But I'm still going to take precautions and not risk spreading anything if I've been exposed. Still pisses me off that his mother was that inconsiderate. But then, she often rips him off, steals from people, and does drugs so she's not exactly the most moral person.

 

[Floorist]

Hope you are ok. I just don't understand having church services during the Covid pandemic.

If they really followed the Bible



Matthew 6:5-6 New International Version (NIV)

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 

[Floorist]

To be honest, I am not a religious person, but I have studied several religions. Did you know that there are over 300 recognized religions?

 

[highup]

That's the reason I too don't have any strong religious feelings. Which one is the right one and why. I'll stick with worshipping in the hills where people are few and far between...... I don't think bears are carriers.
Hope you get your test Zan.

 

[highup]

Seems to me if you can react the vinyl to close the gap the glue hasnt crabbed the vinyl which is why it has shrunk that little The glue we use you wouldnt be able to stretch it over once the glue has dried
The damp floor makes the cutting off blade slide better. The damp rag works well on heat welding Marmo, cools the weld then slides better when trimming off that weld

I used the manufacturers adhesive made for that material. Dries a bit rubbery and stays a little tacky. I haven't seen an adhesive in the past 15 years that dries hard..... epoxy does, but I've never used that.

 

[Floorist]

That's the reason I too don't have any strong religious feelings. Which one is the right one and why. I'll stick with worshipping in the hills where people are few and far between...... I don't think bears are carriers.
Hope you get your test Zan.

Many people go to church to be seen. I grew up as a regular In a Baptist church. Then when I started actually studying religions, I realized that most preachers don't follow their Bible, in fact most don't what it actually says.

 

[highup]

They interpret it.

 

[highup]

Ok Jon, gaining. Here's what I did in 2 hours yesterday.

 

[highup]

4 hours today... got another 4 1/2 feet done.

 

[highup]

Here's what the cold welded seam looks like after installing and before trimming. I'll trim it flush tomorrow after the sealer had cured.
Sealer puffs it up as it almost liquifies the skinny fill strip I inserted into the gap. Its about 1/32nd above the vinyl surface.
.... how skinny you ask?
'bout this skinny.
I just kept slicing slivers of material by eyeballing it, then check to see which one fits. Takes a few tries at it to get a keeper. You can only get around 15 inches to fit snugly, so it's a slow process.
It's going to turn out less visible that using the matching camo rod, so I'm feeling really good about this fix.

 

[Jon]

I dont know of that seam sealer we only get
Werner Muller Seam Sealer (Type C) 44gram Cold Weld Vinyl Liquid
It used to have on the instructions For poorly cut seams. It does actually fill gaps but does leave a "snail" trail
Heat weld doesnt look good unless you can get the newer type with the little lumps on it which blends in
Re the glue you use as compared to ours I wonder if ours "grips" the vinyl more as I cant see the vinyl stretching after the glue has dried with heat as you mentioned earlier
I wonder how you go with the trimming of the excess? Maybe try that snap off blade trick I mentioned as you will not find anything sharper than a NEW BLADE, watch the handle of the knife doesnt mark the vinyl as you are holding the blade against the vinyl. Just bend the blade enough to keep the handle off the vinyl. A lot of guys here just use the snap off blades for trimming the heat weld but the joins have to be really flat otherwise one will trim little bits off the surface of any lumpy bits standing up. White bits of the backing dont look good where the vinyl wear layer has been trimmed off This is were those Mozat trimmers are good

 

[highup]

The knife I borrowed is a half moon style. Is that design considered a dinosaur?

 

[highup]

This sealer wouldn't fill gaps, it's really thin and evaporates very quickly. If you put it in a void it would just soften whatever it's on until the solvent evaporates, leaving a miniscule amount of sealer behind.

 

[Jon]

The knife I borrowed is a half moon style. Is that design considered a dinosaur?

Yes

 

[Jon]

This sealer wouldn't fill gaps, it's really thin and evaporates very quickly. If you put it in a void it would just soften whatever it's on until the solvent evaporates, leaving a miniscule amount of sealer behind.

Your one seems the Type A whereas the Type C is a lot thicker

 

[highup]

The strips I trimmed fit neatly into the voids, but not tightly. Tight isn't possible with material this thin. I carefully taped both sides of the seam, then put the needle of the sealer in the seam, then slowly ran a bead of sealer filling it overly full. When I began inserting this narrow strip into the sealer filled gap, I knew the strip was fully sealed as I pressed it down into place. I was able to push the strip fully into the gap, flush with the vinyl flooring. Once the sealer grabbed onto this fill strip, I wiped off excess sealer with alcohol and pulled off the tape, then wiped it again and rolled it with my steel seam roller...... the roller didn't really do much because the sealer acts so fast.
The nature of the solvent in the sealer probably made the narrow strip swell, so that's why it's 1/32" above the floor now.
Honestly, I think what I am referring to as sealer is actually just a solvent designed to melt the flooring together.

 

[highup]

Yes

I'm going to experiment with a carpet trimmer blade. They are like utility knife blades but only one side is sharpened. Might be a better choice. I can glue handles onto the blade with superglue.

 

[highup]

I only have about 6 feet of seam trimming to do.