Discussing politics and religion

highup · Aug 31, 2024

MSLI said:
Heartland Institute may or may not have integrity. PBS / Frontline may or may not have integrity. What’s a person to do when there’s such dichotomy all around us ? and How do we discern and trust ? ? when both, impressively, claim trustworthiness.

dhttps://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/

That link doesn't work.
I noticed that it said first, second and third.
PBS/climate/denialist group/heartland Institute.
........do you even see the joke in that?
MSLI...... You are using PBS as some fair basis of truth and facts.
You can't trust PBS facts and information any farther than you can throw a left hook.
They rank lower in trustworthyness than John Wilkes Booth.
PBS is as commie, as anti democracy as any broadcasting entity in the entire world.
.....PBS is much more damaging than CNN..... Because people slurp up their garbage like it's a gourmet meal.
PBS is as American as Coulibiac pie.

MSLI · Aug 31, 2024

Csason said:
They don’t want to go backward the theme is forward only into communism

Joyfully

…… Eyes wide open, occasionally, could project imaginary images into the future that may not come true. I understand the caution correctly, just not the absoluteness.

highup said:
What we (I mean sheep) do is assume the government is always correct.

We are all

or

’s Giving it up, or Giving it to

, That’s why we need the Shepherds guidance. Left to our own devices, it would be utter failure, nonsense, and madness. Occasionally when we follow or keep up with the Jone’s ( Alex or Jim ) we get duped

And that’s why we continue to keep our eyes wide open, waiting to cry wolf, maybe prematurely ?

Floorist · Aug 31, 2024

MSLI · Aug 31, 2024

Floorist said:
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why are they free

…. My Democrat friends along with Adam Kinzinger would beg to differ, …. Did you catch that speech at the DNC ? …. Not the Donald bashing but the American

Waving Patriotic attitude. It did shine through and was encouraging

…… Even if it’s not validated by some, the fact is ! It’s very much believably true.

….. no guarantees when humans are considerably concerned more about others behaviors than they are with their own and that imposition on both sides IMHO MAKES for a mediocre Shepard at best. ( I kinda lost myself there for awhile

, but I think I’m back

)

highup · Aug 31, 2024

MSLI said:
why are they free …. My Democrat friends along with Adam Kinzinger would beg to differ, …. Did you catch that speech at the DNC ? …. Not the Donald bashing but the American Waving Patriotic attitude. It did shine through and was encouraging …… Even if it’s not validated by some, the fact is ! It’s very much believably true. ….. no guarantees when humans are considerably concerned more about others behaviors than they are with their own and that imposition on both sides IMHO MAKES for a mediocre Shepard at best. ( I kinda lost myself there for awhile , but I think I’m back )

I'm concerned when others determine what behaviors I'm "allowed" to have. That's why I won't vote Democrat or socialist.
I'll get an electric car when I want one, not because the government limits gas vehicles or raises the gast tax to force me to get one.
I'll hire 3 gay Hispanics, two African American women, one American Indian and 1/2 of an Asian quadriplegic because they are good workers, not because they fit the governments mandated equality standards.
(The 1/2 of an Asian dude will obviously work in the office)

highup · Sep 1, 2024

Nutrition was important to Time Magazine. Kennedy joined Trumps team, so now maybe all this recent talk about nutrition needs to be revised.

highup · Sep 2, 2024

I've never paid much attention to Kennedy as a contender, so honestly, I never knew his focus on any particular subject.
Once he started favoring Trump and me listening more to his passion, health any nutrition has been his big thing. Nothing says that better that his focus on autism. If these numbers are accurate he's obviously on to something. Something the media pays zero attention to.
I just haven't listened to him much.
They ignored Kennedy and trashed Trump for obvious reasons. They want Biden, now Harris to win. This is our media, picking our winners as if that's their job.

Without further ado...

highup · Sep 2, 2024

Do you think Harris is going to ditch the debate somehow?
She couldn't do a pre taped and edited interview all by herself. It was horrible. She couldn't answer a question....so she was asked a second time....
WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON YOUR FIRST DAY?
...she rambled and made up stuff on the fly.

Her comrade didn't answer after being asked TWICE about his combat claim.

Two worthless, lying shills.

I'm trying to imagine her defending the Biden / Harris time in office. Is there even one single thing they "accomplished" in nearly 4 years?
Trump will have no trouble if the debate actually happens. I'm beginning to wonder how she will decide to bail out.
.....I'm thinking "dog ate my homework"
...or COVID

Floorist · Sep 2, 2024

EVs were only 6.8% of the car market last year. Ford and GM are both cutting production. Hertz is selling off EV rentals. Hmmm

MSLI · Sep 2, 2024

highup said:
I'm concerned when others determine what behaviors I'm "allowed" to have.

I’m concerned when individuals think that others actually have the ability to determine your behavior…… The key is self determination, self responsibility and self discipline. It allows us to turn the key and drive our own car with out fearing over outside influences changing us with out our permission. When another car driver waves you out into traffic, do you go, or do you confirm on your own that it’s safe ? ….. Same thing with personal belief and behavior. When the Jehovah Witnesses show up, I know who I am, through self Determination. I remain polite with self responsibility, and when they push a little harder, I become as assertive as they are with self Discipline. Fearing not, at this time, there will be any power or influence over my behavior with out my discernible permission….. This is a goal that I would like to pursue, how about you ?

MSLI · Sep 2, 2024

highup said:
PBS is much more damaging than CNN..... Because people slurp up their garbage like it's a gourmet meal.

I find that really hard to believe because eventually all garbage begins to smell.

An entertainment and educational life with out PBS in it, would be hard to imagine.

Floorist · Sep 3, 2024

If you’re planning tyranny, at least don’t put it in writing. That seems to be the guiding principle behind the Harris-Walz administration’s 2024 Democratic Party Platform. In terms of gun control, their once radical ideas are now missing or appear watered down.

The campaign platform includes its gun control plans, called “Protecting Communities & Tackling the Scourge of Gun Violence.”

According to the platform, the Democrats want:

Universal background checks
“Assault weapon” and standard-capacity magazine bans
Mandatory safe-storage laws
Repeal of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act
Increased red-flag laws
Increased funding for the ATF
Increased funding for the FBI, to conduct more background checks
Increased funding for the CDC, “because the gun violence epidemic is a public health crisis”
Most of these ideas are unconstitutional, and all have been floated before. They’re bad enough, but the real issue is what was not included in the platform, because if Harris and Walz told voters their true intent, they’d never get elected.

MSLI · Sep 3, 2024

Floorist said:
Increased red-flag laws

Would you agree with that ? And if not, what’s your proposal to tighten up sales to questionable citizens. IMHO after Criticizing, suggesting a fix would be nice.

MSLI · Sep 3, 2024

Floorist said:
If you’re planning tyranny, at least don’t put it in writing.

Then maybe it’s not Tyranny, but just overplaying their hand

and I think our system of checks and balances can handle that, what do you think ?

Floorist · Sep 3, 2024

MSLI said:
Would you agree with that ? And if not, what’s your proposal to tighten up sales to questionable citizens. IMHO after Criticizing, suggesting a fix would be nice.

No I don't agree with red flag laws. You are considered guilty and must prove your innocence. Most major cities with gangs, they commit most gun crimes, are controlled by Democrats. The prosecutors in those cities don't enforce gun laws. Lock up the gang bangers first. Enforce the 10,000 gun laws already on the books. Look at the form 4473, the one you fill out to buy a gun. Less than 2% of the people who lie on that form, a felony, are ever prosecuted.
My state, Missouri, does not have a red flag law.

Floorist · Sep 3, 2024

MSLI said:
Then maybe it’s not Tyranny, but just overplaying their hand and I think our system of checks and balances can handle that, what do you think ?

Look at history. Every time a populace, look at the Jews in Germany under Hitler, are forced to give up their guns, they lose. It has happened in several other countries too. And that is the Democrats end game. Several have said they want ALL guns banned

MSLI · Sep 3, 2024

Floorist said:
Look at history. Every time a populace, look at the Jews in Germany under Hitler, are forced to give up their guns, they lose. It has happened in several other countries too. And that is the Democrats end game. Several have said they want ALL guns banned

We have a 50 50 split, no populace concerns here, and no need to power stretch

a connection to Hitler, that’s just plain old alarmist propaganda and does no good for creating function with opposition and let’s face it, oppositional points of view are never going away, why not learn how to give and take with out exaggerate

ing.

MSLI · Sep 3, 2024

Floorist said:
No I don't agree with red flag laws. You are considered guilty and must prove your innocence. Most major cities with gangs, they commit most gun crimes, are controlled by Democrats. The prosecutors in those cities don't enforce gun laws. Lock up the gang bangers first. Enforce the 10,000 gun laws already on the books. Look at the form 4473, the one you fill out to buy a gun. Less than 2% of the people who lie on that form, a felony, are ever prosecuted.

Gang banger situations is a separate animal from Mental health and domestic abuse red flag laws, IMHO ….. And I would be willing, for the good of mankind to prove my stability status if a red flag was pulled on me, how about you ?

Floorist · Sep 3, 2024

MSLI said:
Gang banger situations is a separate animal from Mental health and domestic abuse red flag laws, IMHO ….. And I would be willing, for the good of mankind to prove my stability status if a red flag was pulled on me, how about you ?

They take your guns and you must hire an attorney and he must prove you are stable. It will only cost you a few thousand to get your guns back. I don't have a few thousand. And hunting puts meat on our table.

Floorist · Sep 3, 2024

MSLI said:
Gang banger situations is a separate animal from Mental health and domestic abuse red flag laws, IMHO ….. And I would be willing, for the good of mankind to prove my stability status if a red flag was pulled on me, how about you ?

Hitler ordered the Jews to turn in their guns just before he started killing them. Same thing happened in Guatemala before they killed 100,00 Mayans.

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